A Dad and His Daughters

We have another exclusive interview to bring you. 

People in consanguinamorous relationships are everywhere, though consanguinamorists tend to be closeted. Fortunately, some are willing to be interviewed for this blog. As a result, Full Marriage Equality has featured scores of exclusive interviews with lovers denied the freedom to marry and have that marriage treated equally under the law. Most can’t even be out of the closet or they’ll face prosecution under absurd incest laws, which, instead of focusing on abuse, also target consensual relationships.

The people interviewed below should be free to legally marry, or simply to be together without having to hide, yet they can’t. Prejudice can be deadly. They are consenting adults; why should they have been denied their rights? In much of the world, they could be criminally prosecuted for loving each other this way, and might be persecuted severely in addition.

Read the interview below and see for yourself what they have to say about the affection they enjoy. You may think this relationship is interesting, or it might make you uncomfortable, or you might find it ideal, even highly erotic, but whatever your reaction, should lovers like these be denied equal access to marriage or any other rights simply because they enjoy each other this way?

Also please note that someone you love, respect, and admire could be in a similar relationship right now. Should they be attacked and denied rights because of the "incest" label? Please note that this blog supports ethical, disclosed, of consensual nonmonogamy, and does not endorse cheating.

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FULL MARRIAGE EQUALITY: Describe yourselves.

John: I am a civil engineer, we live in Central Europe. I am 42 years old. I live with my wife and younger daughter. The wife is 41 years old, the daughter is 19. The older daughter is 23. My wife works as a teacher. We live quite nicely. My father is Italian, and my mother is of southeast European origin. 

I have been in a sexual relationship with my elder daughter for the past 3 years. I have been in a romantic relationship with my younger daughter for a year.

Caroline: I am a fitness instructor, I have my own gym and I can say that I have decided on a career in that direction. I'm 23 years old. I live alone, about half an hour from my parents and sister. I always wanted to be independent so I separated. I've been having casual sex with my dad for a while now, and I don't regret it for a second.

Meg: I am currently studying, majoring in information technology. I am 19 years old and I live with my parents. I am in a relationship with my father.

FME: How would you describe your genders? How would you describe your sexual orientation?

John: Male, heterosexual.

Caroline: Female, heterosexual.

Meg: Female, heterosexual.

FME: You are in a sexual relationship with your biological daughters?

John : Yes, they are my full biological daughters.

FME: How does this fit in with your marriage?

John: My marriage with my wife is desperate. We got married young when we had our first daughter, we almost didn't have a choice. We are very different in character, so we were never close.


FME: Are you conflicted about keeping this secret from your wife?

John: No, I don't mind doing this without my wife's knowledge. I know she would judge us and ruin everything for us. Also, I'm not sexually attracted to her, only to my daughters.


FME: Does your wife think this is a monogamous relationship? Would you mind her having other lovers?

John: As far as I know, she thinks she and I are in a monogamous relationship. I don't think she has any lovers at the moment, although I wouldn't mind if she did, she's free to do what she wants, we're going to divorce anyway.

FME: Can you describe your sexual awakening? 

Caroline: My sexual awakening started with puberty. I became aware of how much I loved sex and I loved changing partners.

Meg: Very early, at the beginning of high school. 

FME: What were things like when you were raising your daughters? Do they have the same mother How did you raise them as far as teaching them about relationships, sex, etc.?

John: Yes, they have the same mother. I never taught them about sex, my wife did. She is very responsible in that regard.

FME: How did sexual affection become a part of the relationship between you?

John: When it comes to my older daughter, she has always been attractive to me. I was ashamed of those feelings but they were getting stronger, especially since we are very close. This includes physical contact.

One thing led to another, a touch to a kiss, a kiss to sex.

Our first sex was when I brought her back from a party. We talked about everything and she suggested sex. I honestly didn't think twice. We stopped in a nearby forest and there was our sex in the car. It was strange later but through the conversation we explained how we feel and that we can have sex but without being tied down to each other.

When it comes to my younger daughter, I have to say that the relationship with my older daughter has opened my horizons. I became aware of how good this relationship can be. Me and my younger daughter were always close, on the verge of romance, so I confessed my feelings to her. It took her a while to figure it all out, but luckily she felt the same way. She was in love with me.

Caroline: My father has always been handsome and attractive, there's no denying that regardless of him being my dad. I always admired his strong arms and back. Even before we got into this relationship, if he had asked me, I would have had sex with him. The first time it happened spontaneously, and later everything went according to its own course. Sex has become an indispensable part of our relationship. 

Meg: I've always felt close to my dad, it just took me a while to figure out how I love him. Yes, he is my father, but also the man I love, whom I want to marry. I have never felt happier.

FME: Can you describe your feelings during those initial encounters? How about “the day after?"

John: The day after I had sex with my older daughter, I felt confused. I didn't know what would happen now. Fortunately, she was responsible and clarified everything, so I calmed down and let myself enjoy it. After having sex with my younger daughter, taught by previous experience, I gave her all the support and was by her side.

Caroline: Even though I didn't have anything against having sex with my dad, when it happened it was still a big deal. I took a couple of hours to pull myself together and understand what happened. I understood that this was still a wonderful experience and that I wanted more. It was exciting. I was especially glad to be able to please my dad. The fact that he's great at sex is also a benefit.

Meg: Considering that I first got into a love relationship and then a sexual relationship with my dad, there were no unclear things about sex. The day after I just wanted more.


FME: Before this had you ever thought this would be possible or enjoyable; did you have any opinion one way or the other about close relatives or family members being together?

John: I always felt attracted to Caroline, I was ashamed but I wanted sex with her since she was of legal age. 

Caroline: I wanted sex with my dad, I was ready, but I thought it was my fantasy and that nothing would ever happen.

FME: How do you describe the sex now?

John: Best sex ever, by far. I can't choose which daughter is more beautiful to me, but sex with daughters is definitely much better than with my wife or any other woman. With my older daughter it's more taboo, she loves it, we like to be vocal about it. All in all, sex with my girls rejuvenated me and brought me back to life.

Caroline: Besides my dad, I have other partners, but sex with my own father is the best for me. The fact that he took care of me as a child, looked after me, fed me, and now we enjoy sex is super attractive to me.

Meg: Sex with dad is great, he's my man and I wouldn't trade him for anything, all my previous experiences pale in comparison to this.

FME: Describe your relationships with them now. Is this a marriage, a union, girlfriend and boyfriend, what? Are you more like spouses or family-with-benefits or something else? Do you see each other as father and daughter, or lovers, or are those two roles inseparable at this point?

John: I am in a sexual relationship with my older daughter, in a love relationship with the younger one. I still see them as daughters, I love them as daughters and I am proud of them. But then again, I also see my older daughter as a beautiful girl with whom I enjoy sex, my younger daughter is my girlfriend, and soon my wife.

Caroline: Of course I see him as a father, but a father with whom I am free and with whom I enjoy.

Meg: He will always be my father, I will always look at him that way, but now he is also my boyfriend, hopefully one day the father of my children.

FME: Do you get together in pairs or is it sometimes a threesome?

John: We recently started threesomes. So far it's going great. My daughters are enjoying themselves, that's the most important thing to me.

Caroline: I've always liked to experiment, so I didn't mind a threesome with my father and sister. It's fine for me, I hope for them too. It is difficult to organize everything, but so far we have succeeded a couple of times.

Meg: Normally, I'm not at all in favor of threesomes, especially not with a man I love and consider mine, but since it's my sister, I have no problem. I am slowly discovering my lesbian side.


FME: Do any of you or all of you together ever involve anyone else? 

John: We never involve a third party, nor do we plan to.

Caroline: This way, to explain, I am in a sexual relationship with my father, but of course I have the freedom to have romantic partners. I had boyfriends, I never told them anything because they would judge me, but I would never involve them anyway, I think that our family sex should be ours alone. Men come and go, the father remains, that tells who is the most important man in a woman's life.

FME: Do you sleep together, or what are the sleeping arrangements?

John: I sleep with my wife, my daughter sleeps in her room.


FME: Does anyone in your life know the full, true nature of your relationship?

John: No one knows, not even my wife. She would immediately condemn us and declare us insane. I don't want to tell anyone about this primarily because I don't want to endanger my daughters.


FME: Do you think consanguineous relationships have some advantages and some things better than unrelated lovers, especially between a father and daughter?

Meg: I think that family love is much stronger than that with a stranger, even when it is upgraded with a love relationship, it is the strongest thing in the world. Family will never betray you. I know my father is there for me like no other man ever was.

FME: What do you want to say to people who disapprove of your relationship, or disapprove of anyone having this kind of relationship? What's your reply to those who would say that this is one of you preying on the others?

John: I wouldn't say anything. They are unaware that they are wrong, but I guess one day they will become aware that family sex and love are normal things. 

FME: If you could get legally married, and that included protections against discrimination, harassment, etc., would you?

John: I would marry my younger daughter, and when the opportunity arises, I will do it for sure. I only have sex with the older one, so I wouldn't want more than that. Meg is still young and has some things to accomplish, but she is the woman of my life and one day she will be my wife.

Caroline: I'm not a family person so I don't plan on kids and marriage, but I want to continue having sex with my dad, why not? As for him and my sister, I hope they get married because I can see how much they love each other.

Meg: I want to marry my father and I would do it as soon as the opportunity arises.

FME: Do any of you have children together?

John: We have no children, although I would like to in the future.


FME: If you do have children together, what will you tell them about your relation and about how others might have prejudice against you? Are you going to be more of a father or grandfather to them? If they wanted to be involved with one or more of you, or with their sibling, would you encourage that, discourage that?

John: I would be their father and grandfather, because I am both. As for their activities and choices, they have a lot of right to everything, I'm not a hypocrite. Of course if they are of legal age.

Meg: My father will be a father first to my children, and then a grandfather.

FME: What advice do you have for someone who may be experiencing these feelings for a relative or family member, especially a father or daughter?

John: Fear not, chances are the feelings are mutual. 

Caroline: My advice to all girls who are thinking about having sex with their father is to make the first move. It's easier that way and everything will go from there. There is no better feeling than satisfying the man who created you and I want everyone to experience that.

FME: Do you consider yourself consanguinamorous in orientation, or could you be fulfilled in a relationship with someone who isn’t a close relative?

John: I could be in a relationship with someone else, but the thing is, I'm in love with my daughter.

FME: Have you met in-person or do you know anyone else who has experience with consanguinamory or consanguineous sex that you know of?

Caroline: I had a client who was in a sexual or romantic relationship with her brother. I gave her personal training and on one occasion, while she was in the toilet, she left her phone on. I saw the incoming messages and everything was clear to me. I never said anything to her, but I'm happy for her.

John: I know that one of my former colleagues slept and had sex with his niece several times, but he left his job a long time ago and we are not in contact, so I don't know what happened later.

FME: Any plans for the future?

John: My plans for the future are: divorce my wife, marry my younger daughter and start a family with her, and of course continue to enjoy sex with my older daughter.

Caroline: My plans are to continue growing my personal fitness business, find a nice boyfriend, and continue having sex with my dad in the future.

Meg: I want to finish university and become a successful businesswoman, and then fulfill myself as a mother and wife with my father.

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Again, this blog does not encourage cheating. We encourage disclosed nonmonogamy, but we do accept that circumstances can prevent disclosure.

Clearly, these are consenting adults, and yet they can't even exercise their basic human rights as things are now. They are happy, yet they are denied fundamental rights. They can't even be open about their affection without risking harassment or much worse.

Why should they be denied their rights? There’s no good reason. We need to recognize that all adults should be free to be with any and all consenting adults as they mutually consent, and part of doing that is adopting relationship rights for all, including full marriage equality sooner rather than later. People are being hurt because of a denial of their basic human rights to love each other freely.

You can read other interviews I have done here. As you'll see, there are people from all walks of life, around the world, who are in consanguinamorous relationships.

If you are in a relationship like this and are looking for help or others you can talk with, read this.

If you want to be interviewed about your "forbidden" relationship, or that of someone you know, connect with me by checking under the "Get Connected" tab there at the top of the page or emailing me at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com or see here.

If you know someone who is in a relationship like this, please read this.

Thank you, John, Caroline, and Meg (not their real names) for telling us about your intergenerational, consanguinamorous relationships. We hope the wife and mother in this family doesn't suffer as a result and thing go well in the future.