In some places, laws against polygamy and consanguineous intimacy (consanguinamory) would have to be repealed, overruled, or superseded, just as some places have done with laws against sodomy, interracial marriage, same-sex marriage, cohabitation, etc. - and I argue in favor of that in that people have a right to engage in these things and receive equal treatment from their government and society and protection against certain forms of oppression.
As long as a locality has a justice of the peace or some other agent authorized to perform legally binding marriage ceremonies who will do so without discrimination, I do not argue that any ordained clergy with conscientious objections should be required to perform ceremonies without discrimination unless said clergy is receiving government funds or is employed by the government.
The global definition of marriage should be as follows:
The uniting of consenting individuals in a witnessed ceremony.In other words, marriage should involve only these requirements:
1. The participants shall have consented to the marriage.
2. The participants shall undergo a witnessed marriage ceremony.
3. Any current spouse of any of the participants must have been informed and have either consented, or been allowed to divorce.
A married couple or triad taking on an additional participant may, legally, be forming a new marriage. Or, if only one of them wants to be married to this new participant, and the others have not objected, then this would be a distinct marriage from the existing marriage. A "community property" marriage would mean all are married to each other legally, even if they don't consider themselves married socially. An "equitable distribution" marriage wouldn't necessarily work that way. Existing agreements should be honored, or modified under the consent of all parties. For example, If a man and woman are married with an agreement that the women would get certain assets or support in the event of a divorce, then the man can't lawfully agree to provide those same assets to an additional wife; but the existing agreement can be revised with the original wife's consent. In a community property "all with all" marriage, the original wife would also be gaining a second spouse, and the default division of marital assets would go from 50%/50% to 33%/33%/33%.
I am friends with, inspired by, and thus have chosen via this blog to represent a biological brother, sister, and mother who are seeking marriage equality. They are all above the age of consent where they reside. Bigotry, hatred, discrimination, ignorance, intolerance, fear, and resistance to change are the forces preventing them from being able to have a public marriage. As it stands now, in many places. they could be prosecuted for crimes if it could be proven to a court that they had simply expressed their love for each other in certain ways, even in the privacy of their own home.
I do not advocate anyone engage in activity that is currently illegal in their jurisdiction; I do advocate changing or repealing any law that prevents the freedom of association, love, and full marriage equality. I do not believe anyone should have to move away from home to be legally free to express the fullness of their love. Perhaps this blog can help bring enlightenment and understanding, and as a result, equality.
UPDATE September 21, 2010 -The right to consanguineous (between close relatives) sex and marriage tends to gets most of my attention on this blog, then poly rights, with same-sex rights getting the least attention out of all three categories. This is because I am based in the USA, where same-sex relationships are no longer criminalized; the right to same-sex marriage is recognized in a handful of states and thankfully may be recognized nationwide soon. There are many great online resources supporting the right to same-sex marriage. There are many great online resources supporting poly rights, though poly people still have a ways to go. However, only some states permit first cousins to marry and except for specialized exceptions, no state allows marriage for closer relatives; most states actually criminalize consensual sex between close relatives. Linked to this is an ongoing, pervasive prejudice against consanguineous sexual relationships. The support network for consanguineous rights needs to be grown most of all, so that is what gets most of my attention.
UPDATE December 9, 2010 - Read more about the triad who inspired this blog.
UPDATE February 2, 2011 - I have made revisions to this page and the home page to reflect my support for people to not only be able to choose "all-with-all" marriages of three or more spouses (compatible with community property law), but also having the alternative option of "dyadic networks" marriages instead of "all-with-all."
Comments are welcome.
Proposed Marriage Equality Amendment
Map Showing Freedom Levels For Consanguineous Marriage
Love vs. Abuse - Consensual sex between adults is not rape or abuse.
Help for the Abused
Help For Those With "Prohibited" or Persecuted Sexual Orientations or Relationships
DISCLAIMER: The focus of this blog is consenting adults. This blog does not advocate anyone engage in activity that is currently illegal in their jurisdiction; it does advocate changing or repealing any law that prevents the freedom of association, love, and full marriage equality for adults. This blog condemns rape, sexual assault, sexual harassment, stalking, non-consensual physical contact/recording/distribution of imagery, and child molestation, and frowns in the general direction of cheating. This blog exists mainly to evaluate information and direct others to information about current events; it does not provide medical, therapeutic, legal, financial, or cooking advice. This blog links to other sites for informational purposes; it does not necessarily support everything at those links. Unless otherwise specified, nothing published on this blog is from a licensed therapist, counselor, medical professional, doctor, lawyer, or attorney.
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Very much agreed! All the prejudice makes my brain hurts and makes me mad at the world sometimes, but I know that I fall into that pit be mad about it, cuz that won't change anything. I would be happy to help out in a pro-incest or pro-all marriage equality walks/protests(lol not protesting the marriage thing haha)
ReplyDeleteI would actually love to meet an incestous couple or another consenting group of people that want to be married but unfortunately can't.
I remember in history class, my teacher talked about free love communities once, I thought they were perfectly fine as long as everyone was okay with it...I mean, why would you go there if you weren't okay with it? o.O But I got rather upset when I felt that my teacher subliminally made fun of the free love community, I even talked to my teacher about it after class, letting him know that I felt like he had possibly made fun of them. He denied it for the most part....but...i dunno I felt some prejudice was still there and it bugged me...even worse, he had made the whole class laugh with a joke about them (at least I think it was the free love community, we kind of went back and forth from the free love to talking about this other community that apparently he claimed did pedophilia which is why he was testy about it.(I don't blame him on that...that wouldn't be consensentual.) Still though he said that he was referring to the pedophilia community and not the free love one with the joke, but I think I felt it was kind of aimed at both....grrrr now, the kids are brainwashed and now think it's okay to go around making fun of "wierd love" peoples!! grrrr!!
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ReplyDeleteI can only comment on what my GSA experience has been with my biological father. My experience was a good one because it took me completely unawares and ended up destroying showing me a new way of living. My father and I "met" when I was in college and I was 20-21 years old. For ten years he told me over and over that we were going to build a "family" with his 2nd wife and my half sister. We went on trips together with our newfound "family" overseas and saw each other several times per year for holidays. After 7 years, my father decided to make a special trip to visit me in NYC so that just the two of us could spend some time together. After a show, dinner, and drinks, my father started weeping, touching my hair, telling me I was his little girl, that he was sorry for abandoning me as a child. He touched my hair and faced & hugged me----these are things he had never done. I was completely overwhelmed because I thought I was finally getting acceptance and acknowledgement from my father. The next thing I know, I was in his bed at his hotel. He was again crying, touching my hair, etc. Then he started spooning me and put his hands inside my bra and fondled my breasts. He then slowly took off my bra, and felt my breasts all over for the rest of the night. After a while, he pulled my hand behind me and put it on his erect penis which I rubbed for a while. It was one of the larger ones that I had ever seen. I thought he was drunk and didn't know what he was doing, so I slipped out about 8:00 am as he snored. During the next day, he acted as if nothing at all had happened, so I thought he didn't remember anything and that it was a silly notion on my part. Needless to say the air was electric all night between us. Well, the next night after dinner, we walked outside and he simply said, "I want to come to your apartment and sleep with you." I said, "OK." I'd like to reiterate that in MY mind, I just wanted my father's love and acceptance. I wanted what I missed when I was a child and baby; my father had something else in mind completely. When we got to my place, he immediately grabbed me and forced me into my bedroom. He pushed me onto the bed and started taking off my clothes while saying things such as, "You are my good little girl. I know you always want to do what Daddy wants. It makes me so proud of you that you're so grown up that we can have this kind of relationship. It's perfectly normal and you needn't tell anyone or ever feel ashamed about it." He then started undressing himself and got on top of me completely nude with a fully erect penis. The first thing he wanted was for me to play with myself; all the while, he was encouraging me by saying things such as, "You're my perfect baby girl and this is going to bring us so close together." After a while, he just pushed me back on the pillows and made me lie on my side. He then forced his penis into me and thrusted into me several times. Finally, he jerked me over by my hair and made me lie flat on back and he pulled out and shot all over my face. I don't remember anything after that. It was one of the most exciting nights of my life and one I will never forget. He left for the airport the next morning early. When I got up to see him off I have to admit my legs were shaking a little from the night before. Before he left, he gave me a sweet Daddy kiss and rubbed me between my legs for good luck. I love my new Daddy!
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DeleteMy only problem is that I don't see this going down a healthy road. I've started seeing a therapist 3 times per week for this...
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DeleteI hope the the GSA anon is okay. I read over her GSA experience twice b/c I was trying to make sense of what I was reading the 1st time. From her comment, it sounds exactly like pseudo-pedophilia, rape & grooming.
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