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Friday, June 9, 2017

Frequently Asked Question: How Common is Incest?

The short answer: Nobody knows for sure, but it appears to be common enough that you know someone who has been involved, whether you know it or not. If you have been, are, or want to be involved, you are not alone and it doesn’t make you bad or sick. You’re in the company of royals and peasants, urban dwellers and rural folk, the wealthy and the poor throughout history. Regardless, rights are not reserved for the majority.

This answer is addressing consensual incest, in which I include, in addition to adults, minors who four years or less apart in age when force or coercion are not used. This is what I call “consanguinamory” or consanguineous sex. This answer is not about child molestation, sexual assault, or rape.



The question is asked various ways:

How common is consensual incest?
How common in consanguinamory?
How common is sibling sex?
How common is family sex?

I will also address:

How common are dreams of incest?
How common are incest fantasies?
How common are thoughts of incest?

I’ve already made it clear I’m talking about consensual sex. But there’s another part of the definition of incest that needs to be determined: what relations are considered incestuous ones?

If we include first cousins, then incest is very common, and always has been. It some cultures, marriages between first cousins are still very common. About half of US states will marry first cousins.

Including step-relations (stepsiblings, for example) or adopted relations, as some anti-incest laws do, then again, incest is very common.

But even if we only include half or full-blooded siblings, parents and their adult children, grandparents and their adult grandchildren, and aunt/uncles and nieces/nephews, incest is common enough that everyone knows someone who has been involved in incest, especially if we include people experiencing reunion Genetic Sexual Attraction (the meaning of which includes the fact that they were not raised with or by each other).

As I said in the short answer, nobody knows for sure. Ridiculous laws against consensual incest along with other forms of discrimination, prejudice, ignorance, bullying, and ridicule don’t exactly foster an atmosphere of open and honest discussion or reliable research. If we rely on such things as…

personal responses to surveys…which are likely to have underreporting even if anonymous

DNA tests…which are not performed on everyone, nor always checked for indications of consanguinity (but sometimes are)

criminal cases…which only involve a very small minority of relationships

family records and oral history…which are likely to hide incestuous ancestry even if it was known, which it often wasn’t

…we’re still not going to know about everything. Still, what we have seen indicates that a sizable minority of the population has participated in consanguinamory, and many more have thought about or fantasized about it. About 10% of people in their early 20s will confide in surveys to already having had consensual sexual contact with a sibling. If you have entertained thoughts about having a threesome with twins or other siblings, or with a parent and their adult child, you have thought about incest. Internet searches and traffic, online discussion and chat areas, and erotica (see Literotica.com and the "Taboo" movie series) or adult media publication and usage indicate a high level of interest. Histories, biographies, mythologies, and fiction of all kinds, in movies and books and more, from years past through today also contain tales of consensual incest.

Youthful crushes, infatuations, fantasies, and exploration may just be a passing phase, or may develop into a lifelong spousal-style relationship, or fall anywhere between those two ends of the spectrum. While many children play doctor or games that lead to some experimentation, some people don’t have their first brush with consanguinamory until well into their adult years; even as elderly widows and widowers.

As far as incestuous dreams, it should be noted that sex or sexual attraction in dreams is sometimes representative of feeling close to someone or wanting to be closer or show love in some way. It isn’t always an indication of an actual sexual attraction, but sometimes it is.

Studies indicate that most people are attracted to people who look like themselves, which obviously includes close biological relatives more than anyone else. However, when any two people are raised together in the same family or group home, or one raises the other in such close quarters, related or not, something called the Westermarck Effect may suppress attraction to each other. This effect isn’t present in everyone, or isn’t present strongly enough to suppress attraction or curiosity in everyone. Also, close biological relatives who were not raised together (or one wasn’t raised by the other) wouldn’t experience this effect. On the contrary, the extremely powerful effect of Genetic Sexual Attraction is present in up to half of all reunions/introductions of post-pubescent close biological relatives (after adjusting for sexual orientation). With divorces, break-ups, one-night stands or other relationships in which parents their children or siblings may be separated, adoption, and egg, sperm, and embryo donations, this is becoming an increasing phenomenon in our highly mobile world.

Many people who have experienced Genetic Sexual Attraction, even those who are in lasting, happy consanguinamorous relationships together would have expressed disapproval or discomfort at the idea of consanguinamory before they experienced GSA. But just because one person is disgusted or insists they would never do such a thing doesn’t make it wrong for someone else, nor does it change the fact that does happen. As for consanguinamory between family members raised together or raised by each other, the convenience of proximity and privacy, and the existing foundations of trust and love may foster curious, fleeting exploration or deep and abiding passion.

None of this is to say that any one person should pursue a consanguinamorous relationship with another. Not everyone is right for everyone else at any given time in life. I have my own advice about making a decision about a possible relationship.

If someone in your family or one of your friends is in a consanguinamorous relationship and you are concerned, please read this.
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212 comments:

  1. Nice blog. You lay out the common arguments exceptionally well.

    This issue of Genetic Sexual Attraction, GSA, I find fascinating. Consider: How do you test for the difference between the craving for family that has not grown up together for a difference from a family that has grown up together. It seems that regular incest is also a craving, is no different in nature than the craving in GSA. It's all the same. There may be a difference, but how do you measure what is normal incest craving vs GSA incest craving, or is it simply a politically correct definition for a particular brand of incest?

    So what do I attribute the craving to, whether GSA is involved or not? Simple: The difficult teen years of discovery and difficulty in getting along with hormones growing tends to mitigate any sexual feelings within the immediate family, while those separated before the teens do not go through this difficult time.

    Now imagine if a young teen boy was fully cooperative and helpful to his mother; imagine of the terrible teens of a girl did not exist how this would affect the father; imagine the brother and sister who did not fight or struggle between them for their parents attentions. Get rid of those struggles, and I believe you will also find incest taking place among these close family members.

    I believe that describes what is occurring with GSA better than the other theories I've seen. I call it Phaedrus' Theory of Incest, as I do not know of anyone else suggesting this reason.

    What do you think?

    Phaedrus T. Wolfe

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    1. Thanks for those thoughts, Wolfe. Legally speaking, it shouldn't matter whether something is Genetic Sexual Attraction or "Familial" Sexual Attraction. Sociologically, there is a difference because GSA has to do with NOT forming the sociological family bonds while a child. So when someone is experiencing GSA, they are not only dealing with sexual attraction but "Will be have that sibling (or parent/child) relationship or not?" With FSA, that relationship is already there.

      The distinction also matters to people experience GSA who want to discuss it and deal with the associated issues apart from those experiencing FSA, because of some of the different issues involved and the different public perception.

      What we DO know is that most people are attracted to people like them. In addition, family in the same household often has trust, love, affection, proximity, convenience, shared interests, etc. So it should not be surprising that sexual relationships develop. There seems to be evidence that the Westermarck Effect is real, but it does not impact everyone, and perhaps some that it does effect "overcome" it through intense curiosity, love, or libido.

      The sociological differences also matter when dealing with, say, breaking vows. For example, it should matter to a spouse who expects monogamy whether or not their spouse has an ongoing history of sexual bonding with a sibling who has always been in their lives and hid that from them, or if they have found a long-lost sibling and are suddenly experiencing GSA.

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    2. I have a question I was adopted I never met my bilogical mother for 18 years when I came to meet her for the first time for some reason I was attracted to her it was a week on thanksgiving day we had made out and then it got deep it was an everyday thing I was in love I still am but so much stuff has happend in my life that I need help with does anyone think this is "nasty" please Ive been living withy mom for going on three years ! And now we don't get along I'm her daughter I'm 21; and yes it was consensual sex ! I don't know how to feel about this all I get is shoved to church and said that I'm sinning ! Please I need an understanding on why this happen we argue so much!

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    3. It takes two to have a relationship. Does she not want to have the sexual aspect anymore? Is she feeling conflicted? I can put you in touch with people who can help. Please contact me through email at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com or go to Kindred Spirits at http://kindred.forumup.com but be sure to read and immediately follow the rules there.

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    4. To judge by religion is for some people a bad idea. You read their religious book and it may contain such things. You ask a religious person or specifically a priest and they will call it a sin. If you are an adult and you cause no harm. How could it be wrong?

      From a very young age I had feelings for my siblings. It was simple and pure love and I was innocent. Due to lack of control of us kids the parents let us accidentally see naughty films. So I thought many things were natural. Instead of saying "No this is wrong." It was turned into a giant bad thing and a police officer was called to talk to me as well as half the family. I was made out to be not only wrong but evil... I am middle aged now and the feelings never left, I just keep them under control, knowing that true love and affection is un accepted on occasion. It is a matter of perspective. I live by a simple rule "Do as ye will and harm none."

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  2. I have a question about dreams; maybe you can answer it. Growing up the only sexual dreams I really had were about my brother. I'm not interested in having a romantic or sexual relationship with anyone I'm related to. I'm wondering how common these type of dreams are in adolescence? My reason for asking is because I'm curious to find out if I had those dreams as part of the normal growing up process, or because I was obsessed with my brother as a child, while he hated me and treated me poorly. I was possibly seeking some kind of closeness to him subconsciously. Any input would be great.

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    1. Sexual dreams don't necessarily mean you have an actual sexual desire for that person, although you did say that the only ones you had were about your brother, so perhaps there is something there you don't want to admit. OR... maybe he's the one person in your life to whom you wish you were closer and had a better relationship. From what you write, I'd say that is the more likely case.

      Incestuous dreams are a normal part of the growing up process.

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  3. Very good blog with interesting facts.I just want to say that i worship my family(parents and siblings),they are dearer to me than my own life(not a joke).i personally do not think a sexual relationship between siblings(blood or half)or between parents and their offsprings is right.it shudnt be encouraged in any circumstances.im not saying they shud be put to death either(although i wud recommend it for those who rape or abuse anyone,family or not).
    i still havent made my mind entirely yet abt the whole subject of consensual incest but its really leaning towards a "maybe not,it isnt right"
    my housemates are brothers and they have sex on a regular basis and i just wished they wud date other people and leave this behind as an experience.but apparently the sex is so readily available they dont even bother dating anybody.the older brother is suppose to be a role model for the younger one not having unprotected intercourse with him.
    since they found out i know about them,they have become bold and for some reason i do not comprehend they have become louder than ever before.when i tried to have a serious conversation with him about the subject he cut me off and started talking about Dogtooth movie(which i watched and knew had incest in it).i just asked him to be quiet after midnight and that was it.i never actually got the chance to really ask him the questions tat was bugging me.the brothers have some difference in age and the older one initiated the whole thing,him being pubescent and the other one a pre-pubescent child at the time.so basically the younger one doesnt know anyone(in the biblical sense)except his brother.maybe he is just used to it and doesnt want to disappoint his brother by moving on,so it is unhealthy and unfair.how do u think priest have abused kids for years way into their adulthood,its just people give up and get used to it.imagine an old priest having sex with a heterosexual boy till he is in his mid-twenties and the latter doesnt even resist?is he enjoying it?does he find the priest attractive?NO!its his mind telling him this is "the norm",BUT ITS NOT!SOMETIMES WHAT WE THINK IS CONSENSUAL IS A COERCION TURNED INTO A "NORM".MOST OF THE TIME THERE IS AN INITIATOR AND THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A FOLLOWER.
    i will be honest with you.i had what some people will call incest.since i was a child my cousin and i started "playing doctor" and eventually turned into sex.it went on way into our teenage years.but i admit that i initiated the thing!i was also a kid when it started but i did start the thing coz i was the older one.and guess what my cousin is straight!he had sex with me for years just becoz we fooled around as children.and if it wasnt for a fight we probably wud have had sex till now which wud be wrong!he didnt date a girl until we stopped having sex!what does that tell you?yes it was consensual... "normal" for a gay guy like me but unnatural for straight guy like him! did i unknowingly take years of his normal sexuality?MEA CULPA!do i wish someone had stopped us earlier?YES FOR HIS SAKE!
    look i am a brown homosexual male who comes from a country where it is still illegal.i do want consensual sexual relationships among adults to be legal but this is the red line i think for me.the only other thing that is beyond this line is consensual cannibalism(paedophilia,bestiality,necrophilia being non-consensual but also despised by me).the rest no matter how weird it is if both parties are enjoying it then fair enough.
    i favour the middle path,being extremely conservative is bad but so is extreme liberalism.

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    1. Thanks for sharing that with us. I caution against thinking someone had to be manipulated or coerced into enjoying sex with another adults. Just because it isn't something one person would like for themselves doesn't mean the other person couldn't have chosen it.

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    2. Im sorry i might not have explained myself clearly enough,i sincerely apologise.i said that when the relationship starts at a young age(at least one of the party is younger)the one initiating it is without knowing coercing the other into it.sometimes neither of them has the understanding of what it actually means.one is experimenting his sexuality and the other is through no fault of anyone, kind of the object used for that experimentation.one or both gets accustomed to it and the notion of incest just evades them.manipulation happens when one is in a position of authority over the other,like in the case of an adult(father,mother,priest,teacher etc) initiating sex with a minor.but when they are both minor,in many cases at least one of them still initiates it,he therefore is the one who unknowingly is starting something he has no idea where it'll lead.
      incest or abuse doesnt have a fix manual i know that,each case has its own history behind it.but you cannot just refute the fact that things like this just doesnt happen.
      a cardinal recently had to resign because he initiated sex with priest(& wud-be priests)and they were fully adults in their 20's.were they coerced?yes because they admit he was a bishop at that time and they were suppose to obey him.did they enjoy it?apparently not coz they divulge the truth even though they are not gonna gain anything out of it.
      CAN I THINK THAT ONE PERSON CAN BE MANIPULATED OR COERCED INTO ENJOYING SEX WITH ANOTHER ADULT?YES IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE,HISTORY PROVES IT.
      JUST BECOZ IT ISNT SOMETHING ONE PERSON WUD LIKE FOR THEMSELVES DOESNT MEAN THE OTHER PERSON COUNDLT HAVE CHOSEN IT?YES HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN IT BUT ALSO NO HE COULD HAVE NOT CHOSEN IT AS WELL.

      I AM NOT ARGUING FOR AS A PRO-SOMETHING OR ANTI-SOMETHING.IM JUST POINTING OUT THAT THINGS CAN HAPPEN EITHER WAY.IT VERY OFTEN DOES AND WE SHUDNT DISMISS IT.THE SPECTRUM OF INCEST AND ABUSE IS WIDE ! SOMETIMES ITS OK AND SOMETIMES ITS NOT.
      JUST BECOZ ONE PERSON'S EXPERIENCE ABT INCEST WAS OK DOESNT MEAN THAT ALL OF THEM ARE.
      I PERSONALLY AS AN INITIATOR OF "INCEST" AM TELLING YOU MY EXPERIENCE WAS NOT OK.I ENJOYED IT AS A GAY PERSON WHILE THE OTHER WAS MISSING OUT ON HIS HETEROSEXUALITY.THIS IS NOT RIGHT.I AM TELLING YOU THAT HE WUD PROBABLY HAVE CONTINUED IT FOR LONGER IF NOT FOR A FIGHT WE HAD,AND PROBABLY WUD STILL NOT HAVE DATED A WOMAN LIKE HE SHUD HAVE BEEN.IF I WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP LIKE THIS WITH A WOMAN I KNOW I WUD HAVE REGRETS OF MISSING OUT ON MEN!!!
      I UNDERSTAND UR POINT ITS NOT WRONG ALWAYS BUT CAN BE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.I HOPE U SEE WHERE IM COMING FROM.

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    3. He's not "pro"-consanguinamory, any more than supporters of same-sex marriage are "pro"-homosexuality. He simply doesn't want anyone to be "anti"-consanguinamory. People should be allowed to express their sexuality in the way they see fit, without pressure one way or another from society, as long as they are not causing physical or psychological harm to anyone else. Sex with the someone of the same sex isn't for everyone, and neither is sex with a family member.

      Yes, the spectrum of abuse is broad, but so is the spectrum of love and fun. This is true in all aspects of human life, especially all sexual aspects. Consanguinamory comes with its own risks and rewards, just like other types of relationships. We're not denying the validity of abuse, or the complexity of survivors experiences and emotional reactions. You're the one failing to consider the suffering caused to those denied the ability to love the way they want.

      Yes, abuse is complicated and broad. So it consensual love.

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    4. Just because one initiates a relationship does not take away the other's choice. He uses the example of the priest and the elder brother who initiate a sexual relationship that is wrong, but slants the description. Both examples are of people in position of power, authority, or respect who knowingly or unknowingly use their place or position to their own sexual gratification. This is not the same as adult sex, incestous or not, with consent. A sexual relationship, whether short term or long lasting, between family members is pretty normal if one has no problem with religious dogma. For genetic reasons it isn't encouraged. This is becoming less and less of a problem. With Steamship travel by ocean progressing to Air travel intercontintentally and people moving around the world being very common, the gene pool has become much deeper. We don't live in tiny villages now, nor do we have to intermarry with family to maintain land and titles. Also, sadly, many people turn to those within their own family circle not out of actual love but for comfort linked with the knowledge that the future won't include a broken heart. Incest with consent is very very different today than it was even when I was younger and shouldn't be judged by that yardstick. We live in a world where man has walked on the moon. The rules have changed.

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  4. I just want to say that my sister and I have been having regular sex for about 10 years now. We don't see anything wrong with it. If two people are attracted and in love then it should not matter if they are related.

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    1. Anonymous, thanks for sharing that. If you haven't done so already, please contact me via email or Facebook. Congratulations on your relationship.

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    2. I know very well about having regular sex with your sister is all about. We started as very young kids growing up together (she was 8, I was 9) playing "doctor" with the neighborhood kids. It progressed to playing just the two of us. About a year or so into it, I had the audacity to kiss her "there". And that was how it was until I was 16 and started having committed long term relationships, including a 23 year relationship (18 years of marriage). We united after my divorce and have been getting together as much as our busy schedules permit for the last 12 years or so. The physical side of things have gone of the charts. She is the most enthusiastic, unselfish, and probably the best lover I have ever had. We are incredibly satisfied with each other physically (actually, she is so good that it makes the woman I date pale in comparison. No committed relationships for me since the divorce thank you very much!). Our physical intimacy has fostered an emotional intimacy unparalleled in my other committed long term relationships. We truly have no secrets between us. She has confided in me things she said she would never divulge to any one else. And the same with me. We are fine with each other's physical relationships with others and talk about them with one another in detail if the ever is a need. She has become my best friend in many regards. All of the emotional intimacy and trust would not be possible without our intense physical intimacy. And neither of us have a single feeling of guilt, shame or regret that we are involved with one another. We are very happy with all aspects of our sibling bond.

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    3. Anonymous, sounds like quite the relationship! I'd like to hear more from you, please comment wherever you can give insights and please email me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

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    4. I met my half sister, we for reasons of addoption do not share the same name.
      My mother was pregnant and abandoned by my biological father.She married a guy from Argentina that needed a green card. For some reason or another they fell in love and they remained hapilly married untill this day. I have his family name.
      Some time ago a young lady called me up and told me she was my half sister. First I believed she wanted money, and I knew I had a half sister. I met her and we ended up falling in love. I took her to a nice hotel North of San Francisco and after some wine she gave up and we wnet to bed.
      The family that addopted her are an old couple. Her mother passed away but her father is alive. We get along very well he was a pilot in Viet Nam and I have my own aircraft so we have lots of things to talk about.
      We are living together, my mother knows about it and she told me to be happy and it will be a secret she will take to her grave. She told me: God puts two people together so they can love each other. She said look your father and I, he offered 5000 Dollars for me to marry him so he would get a green card and I did not have were to stay so he allowed me to stay with him as part of the deal. We fell in love he became your father. My teenage daughter loves my half sister and she thinks she is my girlfriend. We live together and are ver happy

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    5. Anonymous, thanks for sharing that with us. I'd like to discuss this privately and, if you'd like, connect you to others. Please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

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  5. My sister used to make me touch her when I was a kid and I didn't really know any better so I didn't really feel uncomfortable with it. But now I'm older I feel as if it was wrong and I wish she hadn't treated me that way. I know it's a little off topic of the whole idea of 'consensual' incest but it's just disappointing when you realise that someone you used to look up to manipulated your trust in such a way.

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    1. I'm sorry that you had that kind of experience. Unfortunately, a lot of kids are pressured into experimenting with older friends when they aren't ready, as well as older siblings/cousins. It's not uncommon for them to feel used somehow, and I want you to know that you're not alone.

      It's not off topic. Supporting consanguinamory should never dampen our empathy, or our sympathy for those who have been pressured, manipulated, or coerced into sexual acts they weren't ready for, by a family member. As long as you respect everyone here as moral, consenting adults, we will accept and listen to your experiences.

      All of our experiences are valid. All of us are human.

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    2. It's very possible someone else made HER touch THEM and that was why she repeated the action with you.

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  6. My mother and me sleep in same bed,and have sex often. I love being her lover,no matter what society says!

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    1. I respect your relationship. Any time share with me if you want. 'humhainna21
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    2. Keith Pullman, why don't ya reply to critics? Ya only reply on pros not seeing the cons or others thoughts about this subject?

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    3. I often do reply to critics. If I don't it is either because I was too busy doing other things and I never got back to the comment, or the criticism is so weak and/or already answered here.

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    4. I also am in an adult mom/son love. Fell in love (and in bed) with mom 12 years ago. Best romantic relationship of either of our lives. No abuse or molestation here, I'm now 51 and mom is 69.

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    5. Anonymous, congrats on your love. I'd like to discuss this with you. Please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

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  7. Consensual incest between siblings who were raised together as such is almost always a more dominant sibling coercing a passive one into sexual situations. I don't care how you try to rationalize it. It's wrong and it will mess the passive one up. The only time I've seen otherwise is when both siblings are being abused and/or molested and they bond together through the abuse and sometimes become sexually involved with each other. That doesn't turn out well either.

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    1. Coercion is not consent. Yes, there are abused people who get together, but you are wrong to dismiss the fact that there are many sibling s out there who have loving relationships that include consnguinmory.

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    2. Being the older brother, I feel regret in starting a sexual relationship with my sister. While we pretend that it has not affected us negatively, I can clearly see that it is not case for both of us.

      The sexual co-dependence has eroded her sense of self and respect for personal space, and severely limited her ability to socialize.

      I genuinely care for her, but I couldn't bring myself to end our situation. I tried. Maybe I'm just pretending to want to end it, or maybe this is the psychological effect on my part.

      I can't deny that we both enjoy the satisfaction and excitement. And lately, its convenience. But given the chance, I will still wish that I did not start this.

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    3. Anonymous, thanks for your comments. Like any sexual relationship, sometimes people have regrets or think they could have handled something better. Hindsight is like that. It is possible that she has some social obstacles that would have existed anyway. It comes down to what each of you need and want. You can't decide that for her, only for yourself. If one of you truly wants the sex to end, then it is up to that person to end it. If however, the "I want it to end" is really an expression of internalizing external disapproval, that is another matter. Whatever happens, I wish you well. Feel free to contact me privately as I'd be very interested in hearing more about your situation as I think your experiences can be helpful to others.

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    4. Keith, I don't think that's entirely fair. What he's talking about is something people need to be aware of in relationships, and I think particularly familial relationships when one of the parties is still emotionally developing.

      He doesn't want to be a crutch for her, to inhibit her emotional development, but he's self-aware enough to realize that her respect and love for him as an older brother prevents her from confronting him. Unfortunately, he's fighting the part of himself that wants to keep going for himself, regardless of what's best for her. This can happen in any relationship where one party is emotionally dependent, but there's a lot more emotional dependence on older family members when one is still growing up.

      As far as a legal standpoint, yes, we should leave it up to parties to consent or not consent. However, shouldn't authority figures exercise restraint for the good of the other party, when they know it isn't helping them. I agree with Dan Savage: relationships with significant power imbalances aren't inherently bad or dirty, but they put a lot more responsibility on the more powerful party to act benevolently. Egalitarianism isn't enough, we have to also understand our own roles, the roles of others, how they interact, and what that requires of us to bring about other people's happiness.

      "With great power comes great responsibility." He's starting to understand his own power in the relationship, and justly both fear and respect it. He may be projecting his own misgivings onto her, but regardless, you shouldn't dismiss where he's coming from. As long as he isn't approaching this all with the baggage of "taboo," then there's no harm in being open with her, talking about it, and then deciding if he's what's really best for her.

      Love is about more than just physical intimacy, or even emotional intimacy. Love is about being willing to sacrificing some of your own happiness for the sake of another's. (That's why I don't have a problem being in a poly relationship.)

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    5. But you seems to forget that we're talking about love, not power dynamics. It is not a contract. What if she's different and can't socialize very well ? I never got touched before being 19, and I never could socialize with anyone either. That way I got to be a better human being. Who are you to deny she is maybe better off that way ?

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    6. IMHO that is a gross generalisation. My sister and I shared an apartment at an out of town university. She is almost 2 years my senior. After about 3 months we started chatting about the ideal partner; shy admitted that she would one day like to have a partner just like me; I had to admit that I regarded her as the ideal model so strive for as a partner. With that the questions of GSA came to the fore, and we talked about it at length (stretching over days).
      Well, to cut a long story short, we decided that we would like to try making love to each other once (more or less as an experiment); we decided that should either have any hangups or reservations afterwards, we would not do it again.
      We ended up under the shower, soaping in each other, kissing under the water, and drying each other with a towel each. Neither was a dominant one, and we more or less decided simultaneously that we would like to take it to the next step.
      The first time was a wonderful experience, and yet we did not just jump into it. Even when I was about to enter her the first time, I asked whether we should continue. She said "yes", and pulled me nearer. Even when I entered her fully, I stopped and asked whether we should proceed, since I could still pull out at that stage. We both agreed to continue.
      It was the most erotic experience of our lives. The next morning she went to the campus clinic to get the morning after pill, and went on the contraceptive pill.
      It was the start of a wonderful relationship, fulfilling in each other's physical and spiritual needs, and we made love almost daily. Sadly it came to an end when she completed her studies and moved away.
      Realising that we would not be allowed to marry, we eventually both ended up marrying someone else. I often wonder what the end would have been, had we been allowed to marry.....

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    7. Anonymous, Thanks for sharing that. Is be interested in communicating further. Please write me at my new address fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com.

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  8. People it is scientifically provern that people are attracted to people with the greatest genetic differences. Scientifically being gay does not work and neather does incest. The people with the closest genetic makeup should not seem more attractive than strangers

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    1. Actually anonymous, you are misinformed or misunderstanding. Studies show MOST people are attracted to people who look like them. If your claim was correct, then we'd see a lot more people in interracial relationships. "gay does not work" has been refuted so many times I won't bother. I recommend checking out these entries: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/search/label/science

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    2. "Studies" vary as much as human interest does. Suggestions abound. but conclusiveness is elusive. For the record, as a black guy who prefers pale Irish women, I certainly have no inclination towards anyone who looks like me or anyone in my family (not against black women, mind you--just repulsed by any woman who looks too similar to me or my close relatives). I'm sure I'm probably more the norm there than what "studies" so readily claim--since most couples I know look nothing alike, in the least.

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    3. "Most" is certainly not all. This blog fully supports interracial relationships, too. Some people are strongly attracted to people of a different race, others to people who look like them. We think all of them should have their rights. By the way, if you've experienced discrimination by anyone because of your relationships I'd like to heard about that. Email me if you'd like.

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  9. I was just 15 when this started with my elder sister who is 7 years elder to me.I always adored her as she is beautiful and intelligent.She had always loved and cared for me and supported me.One night she invited to sleep with her as she felt lonely.In the night I woke up and found she was using my right hand to kneading her left breast.This led to instant arousal and I simply lost control.I kissed her everywhere.She responded by coming on top of me and doing the same.soon we both were helping each other undress. We made love the whole night ,in ever possible manner except intercourse.She was shy of intercourse .Eventually after about 5 years of soul searching and testing of our love relationship,we moved to our new home as husband and wife.In our new home we had our first intercourse.It was an incredible feeling to have my thing inside her.I still love and respect her as my elder sister and abide her decisions.I always want to love her as I know she wants me only.I never want to break this relationship of love, trust,and deep understanding.We both are extremely happy together and have never felt the urge to be with someone else.We both feel extremely sad whenever we are separated for just a few hours.Now I am 55 years old and she 62 ! It has been a long journey.We have 4 daughter,three are married and well settled.while the youngest is in school.

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      The inherent risk of unprotected sex leading to special needs kids makes my skin crawl a bit. Of course, that risk is always present, in any relationship. However, when your genetic makeup is so close the risk just skyrockets. If you and your familial partner decide to have kids, please consider adoption instead. There are many children without so much as beds to call their own, why risk bringing yet another into this world?

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  10. Hi all. I'm an African male, early 30. When I was a teen and virgin, I used desire my aunt (my fathers direct sister) who was a year younger that me. There was this outfit she used to wear to do the cleaning and it just turned me on. At night I started sneaking into her bedroom and touching her while she was asleep and jerk off while touching her.
    I can't tell if during those nights she was awake, but this one day I decided to go further... I did not only touched her as I took her hands and put them on my genitals, and I noticed no resistance and she was "wet". So I jumped on top of her and penetrated as she pretended to sleep but I could hear her moaning (we were both virgins... And she bled). You will not believe that I had a girl friend ready for me, but I turned her down because I was so obsessed with my aunt.
    The second time I was going to have intercourse (sneaking into her room) I nearly got caught by her brother, so I feared for my life and never tried again!
    The strange thing is that... We don't talk that much (once or twice a semester), she gets a bit uncomfortable around me (and so do I) She is married now and has 2 kids, but from time to time (once or twice a month) I think about the "unfinished business" with her!
    I don't love her, don't want a family or anything... Its just thoughts that get to me , specially after being around her! I hate myself for this... I'm I crazy?

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    1. This sounds like rape. People, including and especially teenagers, naturally get erections or lubricate several times during a night's sleep. But even when awake, those are not equal to consent.

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    2. *sigh* Unfortunately, this is apropos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5H6QvNmfjY

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  11. The thought of having sex with my sister is what has brought me to this page. We're both single adults in our 30's and there's been a lot of flirting and sexual tension between us lately, it's kinda weird but exciting at the same time. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it, to each his own as long as its consensual. Honestly, I do wish for it to happen.

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    1. So she flirts back? How explicit is the flirting? Always feel free to contact me privately.

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    2. Hi! how can I contact you privately?

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    3. Fullmarriageequality @ yahoo . com Without spaces.

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    4. i think it is very important to have the conversation of what it may mean to the two of you BEFORE you go to the next level with your sister. In my 45 year experience with my sister, we had a lot of conversations before having intercourse when we resumed our incestuous relationship after a 23 year break..At the beginning and even after our first or second adult encounter I felt guilty and shameful after we had our "sessions" . I never talked to my sister about how I felt after having sex with her when we were kids. I always felt awful after we cleaned up, but when I talked to her as an adult before we resumed things, my sister told me she never felt any remorse ever.
      I never discussed this with my sister until 23 years later when I got the courage to talk over what all our childhood activity meant to one another. I was really concerned it may have messed with her self esteem etc.like it did to me. She was emphatic that it did not and offered that "you were not the only one who enjoyed it". That response initiated more conversations which led to her visiting me for the first time in all those years for the explicit purpose of taking it to the next level. That was over 14 years ago and we couldn't have a better relationship. BUT,it is a great relationship because of the trust and the emotional intimacy we share and the open communication. And yes, the emotional intimacy has a lot to do with the physical aspect. I let go of any feelings of shame, guilt etc long ago. I did have mixed feelings after our first 2 or 3 adult encounters, but it was so incredibly exciting and satisfying and we kept getting better and better in every way a relationship could. I have now come to embrace our relationship in all aspects and do not have any remorse.
      Now we both snicker when we hear the typical "ICK!" remarks about sibling incest on TV or in mixed company. When I hear the old saying: "it's like kissing your sister" , my reply to myself is "Yeah right. You've never kissed MY sister".
      So obviously I don't think there is anything wrong with consensual adult incest. Incest really is best as they say, but be sure both of you are ready for some of the inevitable repercussions that you will most likely encounter after the fact. Be sure that you both can talk about what you two are feeling. You don't want to be laying on top of her (or the other way around) having just climaxed and have feelings of remorse, anxiety, guilt or shame and not be able to level with her or work through them. I know it happened to me as a kid and again as an adult. The key was that my sister was approachable, re assured me and we talked through my stuff. Now I am kind of arrogant in my own way that I have something few ever will have and maybe lack the courage to pursue because they can not come to terms with the social stigmata or self loathing, shame etc that we all keep hearing about. Incest is awesome for me now, but it has been a journey of self discovery, of letting go and knowing what you really want and like. It could have been a disaster if my sister and couldn't talk things through. Projection of anger, hostility etc can happen. I hope my experience has given you something useful for your situation. I hope that if you go through with it you will have as positive as it has become for me and my sister.

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  12. Loosing virginity with auntie:
    Rape? Noooo... Not at all!!!
    Like I said she wasn't sleeping (pretended)... And she allowed me to get on top of her and do my thing as she was moaning to my moves. She was just shy to look at me and honestly even with other girls I don't get them to sign papers before intercourse to prove its consensual. As a man you do your first move and the girl responds positively or negatively. Nights before she wouldn't let me get that far, but that day she did (and strangely we spent the evening watching our dogs mating...).
    Anyways... Nice stopping by! Keep up the good work

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  13. From: Inkaboutit4u.com

    Great stories. Love and sex, sex and love., which come first? Sex drive promotes sex, and great love promotes sexual desire.

    God at creation was very pro-incest. But people over time get major nudity and sexual hangups and pass their personal hangup onto others. God wants us to love one another and humans are best lovers when they are making love sexually. Sex is great because it bring people close together lovers.

    Adam and Eve were brother/sister because they had the same DNA closer then any incest couple today.
    Abraham and Sarah were brother/sister marriage. All animals and humans were created "one male, one female" meaning everything God created all had incest.

    This is how God chose it to be. But today we copy evil, sinful, confused, corupt thinking Adam and Eve and in everyway God creation plan is made illegal. God want all people to be nudist. But if you walk down the street nude they put you in Jail.

    God grave all creation at creation public sexual freedom to have many sex partners over a life time. But if today you have sex in public they put you in jail. If you marry many people today they put you in jail.

    God given sexual freedom and even Israel always had legal prostitution but today many place they outlaw prostitution and put you in jail.

    God was very pro-incest at creation but today they want to put you in jail it you have incest.

    So they make major law against every part of God's creation plan. And then they think they are "godly" for doing so. Totally backwards.

    Today Christians are under the Law of Love, Not some long list of Jewish laws from the OT Bible.

    We are not under Lev 18 Jewish laws against incest made 2600 years after creation. These laws were for the Jewish people only and were for a special place and special time. Most of them it says Don't do this because it may bother so and so. Remember they were living in Tents and had NO privacy at all. They had lots of sexual hang ups.

    Today we are "NEW CREATION" in Christ , the same as Adam and Eve were a "NEW CREATION" in God. We have the same freedoms as Adam and Eve and all creation had before they sinned.

    But we live in a world that obeys evil, confused, corrupt thinking Adam and Eve thinking after they sinned and disobey God. and they think that is spiritual instead. The opposite is true.


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  14. I'd like to point out something about children conceived through incest: birth defects are more likely, and it WILL get worse over generations of incest. See this:
    http://marriage-equality.blogspot.fi/2010/11/happy-couple-that-deserves-equality.html

    If children of Liz & Ryan will have their own children among themselves (through brother-sister relationship as their parents), those are more likely to have birth defects (and worse ones) than their parents. One generation of incest offspring might not be too bad, but more than that can be more problematic. Royal houses have fallen becouse of such. That could have contributed to present day general opinion about incest.

    My personal opinion: allow incestuous relationships, but consult medical specialists before conceive children.

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    1. Believe me, we do think about this. We would talk about this with our kids, but ultimately leave it up to them.
      -Liz

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    2. While true in a broad sense, what Anonymous is saying is still ultimately wrong. It depends on what the genes of the family are like. Genetic testing helps with making those decisions. Some communities have gone many generations with nary a problem. Others have had problems, but were able to eliminate them by only having children after a clean bill of genetic health. Regardless, once Liz's kids are adults it's their decision. The state shouldn't coercively make those kinds of life decisions on their behalf.

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  15. I do not see nothing wrong with Incest, but I do believe that the people involved should be at least 21 years old, and they should not have offspring (if defects can be proven to be an issue).

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  16. I started having consensual sex with my step mom, when I was 13. My dad was a tugboat captain, and was gone a lot, almost every weekend. My step mom was only 15 years older than me, and she was HOT! Any way, she loved martinis and I took advantage of her being drunk one long weekend. That broke the ice, and we never regretted it.

    Anytime my dad was gone over night, we would spend the time together in bed. After about 6 months, my mom confided to me that her and my dad were swingers, and that my dad was a voyeur. She told me that she hated the swing scene, and that she only wanted to have sex with me, was going to tell my dad about our relationship, and that she knew he would approve. I was scared that he would flip out, but he came to me and told me that he was "OK" with it.

    What started out in secret, got better once every thing was in the open. We became so comfortable that my dad would take videos of my mom and I. He would watch them when he was at sea. My mom loved being photographed, and video'd. I was having the time of my life, with a woman that most men would die to have.

    My dad died from a heart attack when I was 20. And I continued to be her lover, and provider till she passed from lung cancer 20 years later. Please don't smoke!

    I married a wonderful woman 21 years ago. I have a happy normal life, what ever that is. I've never told my wife about my sexual relationship with my mom, and won't. I'm not ashamed, it's not important for her to know.

    My wife is a beautiful redhead, and a fantastic lover. I'm very satisfied, and happy as a clam.

    My mom was on a whole nother level. She would get emotional if I didn't have sex with her everyday. Sometimes it was a real chore, with work, collage, and as the years went by, life in general. I think the taboo associated with our sexual relationship fueled both of us to want sex as often as possible. Sometimes I was just tired.

    I'm 61 years old now. Looking back, I'm glad I had this wonderful, beautiful, loving woman teach me everything about sex. I miss her terribly, but I've got wonderful memories.

    As a side note, my mom destroyed all the pictures, and videos in my dad's collection. At the time she said:" we don't need these, we got the real thing."

    Is incest a bad thing? Maybe, but it wasn't for me. The fantasy became real, and I lived it for a time. I have no regrets.

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    1. Anonymous, while I'm not sure what laws were in place at the time, today there would be multiple laws violated by what to describe, state and federal, if it were to have taken place in the US. I do not advocate lowering age of consent laws and generally consider such activity between an adult in their 30s and a 13-year-old to be abuse. However, you would have been the victim in this case and even with more life experience and perspective, you do not see it as having been harmful, and as long as you have not, in turn, involved yourself with minors in your adulthood, then I'm glad you're OK and happy.

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    2. I agree Keith. I see it like other forms of rape.

      Let's say one person gets another blackout drunk, and has sex with them passed out. Just given how diverse human relationships are, there'll be at least a handful where the victim doesn't feel wronged, and may even have wanted to get into a relationship with the person who took advantage of them. Is the existence of some such cases justification for decriminalizing that kind of rape? Is it justification for removing the legal means of recourse from people who've been and felt victimized? I would say, no.

      That's also my attitude towards age-of-consent laws. Some people were okay with their experiences. Lucky them. That's still not justification for decriminalization. (There are further arguments, but I feel that I've made my case.)

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    3. As usual, your recent comments, GS, are eloquent and brilliant. Thanks.

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  17. I will comment as anonymous but Im not trolling. Honestly, the idea of incest is the strongest sexual fantasy for me. Im an adult female, 32 yo, married to a man who I found on the other side of this planet so no we are not related. But I fantasize about imaginary daddy, brother, even imaginary child of mine during sex and it is a very powerful stimulant to make me climax. In reality though, I have a real father, real brother and real children that I do not feel sexually attracted to at all. Such thought that Id have sex with them as real people with names and faces feels very disgusting and fairly scary to me. I think that is where the Westermack Effect kicks in. SO hypothetically big turn on, like if I read a book about incest - love that - but practically in my family - never. Very scary and really the thought of me and my dad, brother, son - yuck, never. I dont know how to describe it better. That is the way I feel.

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    1. Thanks Anonymous. I think there are many people who are the same as you. That is one reason consanguinamory is so popular in erotica

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  18. There is well documented science explaining that inbreeding produces offspring that are less healthy than those with unrelated parents. Here are three separate studies on the matter.

    "The offspring of consanguinous relationships are at greater risk of certain genetic disorders. Autosomal recessive disorders occur in individuals who are homozygous for a particular recessive gene mutation."

    William J Marshall, Ph. D.; S K Bangert, Clinical biochemistry : metabolic and clinical aspects (Edinburgh; New York: Churchill Livingstone/Elsevier, 2008), p. 920

    "The low genetic heterozygosity associated with increased consanguinity in a population (identified by microsatellite markers) increases its susceptibility to infectious pathogens such as tuberculosis and hepatitis."

    Lyons EJ, Frodsham AJ, Zhang L, Hill AV, Amos W. (2009). Consanguinity and susceptibility to infectious diseases in humans. Biol Lett. 23;5(4):574-6.

    "Children of parent-child or sibling-sibling unions are at increased risk compared to cousin-cousin unions"

    Wolf, Arthur P. and Durham, William H., ed. (2005). Inbreeding, incest, and the incest taboo: the state of knowledge at the turn. Stanford University Press. p. 3

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    1. Anonymous, thanks for your comment. Let's assume for the sake of argument that children born to consanguineous parents are at a greater risk of certain genetic disorders, OK? So are children born to women over the age of 35, and much more so children born to someone with Huntington's Disease. However, we do not deny such people their right to date, have sex, live together, marry, or have children, do we? For a more extensive reply to your statement, see here: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/06/consanguinamory-and-reproduction.html

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    2. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Children born to a 35 year old woman in a consanguineous relation are at HIGHER risk than a child born to unrelated parents. You are misleading people, like telling them its more dangerous to drink than it is to drive. In reality Women 35 and older account for 11 per cent of first-time mothers. So at least ten percent of women having children in consanguineous relationships are at a greater than "normal" risk for complications. http://sogc.org/publications/age-and-fertility/

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    3. Again, we do not ban people from having children even if they are much more certain to pass along genetic problems (50% with Huntington's Disease), so the lower general risk consanguinity brings (let's say as high as 10%) is not a valid reason to ban consanguineous relationships.

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    4. Yes, but why do you appeal to what we currently do, especially since you're seeking social change? We could be wrong not to ban people with serious genetic problems from having children (even if it were as easy to implement as upholding the social and legal taboos against consanguineous relationships is). The fact is that serious harms are inflicted on non-consenting children in all of these cases, and we should therefore not encourage them.

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  19. My Sister and myself are both of middle age now, she being just 3 years younger. We had a fairly normal sibling relationship growing-up with no real radical history with us sexually . During adolesence there was the usually peeking at one another while dressing or bathing and on one occasion as young teens I showered with her. We where often aware of each others masturbation habits but never got involved more than that . We both have families now but she has been seperated from her husband for several years. It is during this time that our mutual interests became exposed and we began experimenting with some modest sexuall acts together. Last two years we have discreetly taken weekend get-aways to enjoy these. We are now currently considering a short cruise this summer to pursue complete intercourse. We are both comfortable with our recent experiences and overly excited over our future prospect.

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  20. I am 43 and living in NY. My sister is 42 and divorced living in MA. We have been having sex on and off for almost two years and I have found it to be one of the most satisfying relationships I have ever had. This never crossed our minds until we were both single.

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  21. I am 43 and my sister is 42. I live in NY and she lives about 90 minutes away in MA. We are both well educated professionals. Within a year after her divorce we started having sex and it has been one of the best relationships I have ever had. This has been going on since October 2012 and we love it. It's not just about sex.

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  22. I had incest has a preteen to early 20s and I think inmcest couples should be free to have happy lives

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  23. Ok time to confess like many others. I feel incest towards my sister. We are from India.Shes my real direct sister not a cousin. She is 21 & i am 25 ! We were like normal bro sis b4 but when she crossed her 20's I started to get physically attracted to her. She is beautiful fair, not too slim but not too over weight. When she was 18, her boob size was 34B & now its 36C ! We used to hugg n kiss on cheeks very lovingly like bro n sis do. But in the last 2 yrs, when i hugged her, her boobs got pressed hard against my chest. She didn't know bcz she was carefree. But i cud feel it & i used to get hard soon but smhow i tried to hide. Being in same house, i also notice her a lot. I see her clothes secretly, her innerwear & undies. I found out she also wears thongs making me imagine more. So one day she hugged & saw my hard on in my shorts. I cudnt hide, she saw my shorts & it was awkward moment. But she smiled & went out. Another day we hugged again but we accidentally got our lips touched in a hurry. Again she smiled n we let the topic go. I feel attracted to fondle her boobs & to show her my cock but scared to tell her. How should i approach her ? Plz help !

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  24. Ok time to confess like many others. I feel incest towards my sister. We are from India Shes my real direct sister not a cousin. She is 21 & i am 25 ! We were like normal bro sis b4 but when she crossed her 20's I started to get physically attracted to her. She is beautiful fair, not too slim but not too over weight. When she was 18, her boob size was 34B & now its 36C ! We used to hugg n kiss on cheeks very lovingly like bro n sis do. But in the last 2 yrs, when i hugged her, her boobs got pressed hard against my chest. She didn't know bcz she was carefree. But i cud feel it & i used to get hard soon but smhow i tried to hide. Being in same house, i also notice her a lot. I see her clothes secretly, her innerwear & undies. I found out she also wears thongs making me imagine more. So one day she hugged & saw my hard on in my shorts. I cudnt hide, she saw my shorts & it was awkward moment. But she smiled & went out. Another day we hugged again but we accidentally got our lips touched in a hurry. Again she smiled n we let the topic go. I feel attracted to fondle her boobs & to show her my cock but scared to tell her. How should i approach her ? Plz help !

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  25. I learned early that my mom cheated on my dad. Many times she would take me with her, since in her words, Dad wouldn't suspect her of fooling around if I was with. I was never asked to lie, but I knew certain details were not to be repeated. Many times, I would sit in some strange house or apartment while my mom and her man of the hour would head to the bedroom. Mom admitted later on when I asked that she was getting paid.

    I was 16 when my mom asked if I would have sex with her, at the request of one of her customers. My mom took my virginity while a middle aged man sat by the bed and masturbated. Mom was a plain looking woman who was not obese, but close. She did have some soccer ball size breasts that sagged down to her belly button.

    After that first time, we had sex a lot. I continued having sex with her even after I married.


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    1. Hi Anon, I'm not sure if u feel the same but the thought of having sex with my sister or mother, someone who is so close & directly connected to oneself is rather more comfortable than with a stranger.. I mean for me, I am attracted to my sister a lot with no comparisons & like i've mentioned above am seeking advice on how should i approach her ahead..

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    2. Hi Amit, you are not alone in this situation. I don't know if
      anybody could guide you. If the feeling is mutual you don't
      any guidence. Please let us know the outcome for others
      guidence.

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    3. PS what is your interest?Are you a therapist?There was an issue of Savvy magazine wherein examples in India were given.Any more references?

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    4. Robyn, thanks for your comments. I've held off on publishing the second and third one as I might want to edit your comments and publish them as a separate blog entry. Please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com so we can discuss further.

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    5. Hope you're okay May 20th 2014 Anon; sounds like you are. Your mom shouldn't have had sex with you at age 16, despite that exploiter asking for it to happen.

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  26. After this interesting reading, my sister and I would like to "share" our experience.

    While growing up, we had some flirty type teases but nothing more than that ... until the past couple of years. We are both in our late fifties and I am a widower and my sister is divorced and moved in with me when they sold their house.

    I have a small 3 bedroom, 1.5 bath house and I wasn't particularly modest walking around late at night. This one particular night, I was up getting a Coke when my sister came out of her room and was a bit surprised to see me naked and joked about it. She was wearing a thin short nightie and I shot a couple of jokes back and we both laughed it off.

    After that, my sister seemed to come out of her room just about every time she heard me walking around and I assumed it was to see me naked and I have to admit I also enjoyed seeing her in her little nighties too.

    One evening, I didn't wait until bedtime to walk around naked ... I just came home, got undressed, and went into the kitchen where she was. When she saw me, she was pretty flustered so I got my soda and went back to my room thinking I made a big mistake. About 10 minutes went by and then she just burst into my room naked ... we were both stunned, but I got up and went to hug her. As I did, she just melted in my arms and we kissed and kissed ... I speak for both when I say we make out together better than any other partners we've had!

    Sparing the details, we do just about everything sexually except actual intercourse - mostly we masturbate each other and occasionally have oral. What is surprising to me is the frequency - there is hardly a day we do not have sex. Again speaking for both - neither of us have had a more erotic sex life than now.

    Another peculiar but welcome thing is that we both seem to have an exhibitionist tendency - we seek out public places to fool around although we mostly are content with nude beaches. We've even vacationed at Hedonism II over the Christmas/New years holiday and plan to go back.

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    1. Anonymous, thanks for reading and thanks for sharing! Sounds like quite a good time the two of you are having. I'd like to talk with you more. Feel free to write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

      Of course, you are always welcome to comment on the blog entries. I'm curious, if it isn't too private, as the reason for avoiding intercourse. Is she still fertile?

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    2. Your frequency having sex with your sister sounds very familiar. My sister and I are also in our 50's and when we are able to get together we are like bunny rabbits We have been have full blown sex for 14 years now. When we get together we are at each other all the time.... Like 2 to as many as 5 times a day. Seriously. We do not have the ability to get together more than once or twice a year, but when we do, it is awesome. It is especially tough when we are together at family functions and we have to act like we are just "family", but the yearning only makes our time together more intense. My sister is amazing in those situations. She knows I am going crazy for her so she'll take care of me in some really compromising situations. Public places don't phase her.When we were at my brother's last summer, she gave me a hand job in the jaccuzi while my brother and sister in law were swimming in the pool 15 feet away. And she gave me an awesome blowjob in their dining room while they were on the patio. The only time she balks is if our mother is through the adjacent wall (even at age 51 my sister has "mother issues"!). Then she'll "only" do oral. Like the time we were in the upstairs guest room and we could hear her husband talking to our parents downstairs in the kitchen. She bent over and took care of me without me having to say a word. With a wry smile she was telling me how she "got her daily serving of protein" before I knew what hit me. Every brother should have such a great little sister. And yes, every word is true. So I know very well about "exhibitionist tendencies" and "frequency" when having sex with your sister. I love our unique relationship and hope you take it beyond mutual masturbation and oral. Believe me, that is all great, but there is absolutely nothing like having a simultaneous orgasm while inside your sister. Everything else pales in comparison. Trust me on this.It sounds like the two of your are ready to take your relationship to the next level. I can only hope your experience is as grat as ours has been

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    3. Anonymous, thanks for sharing that. If you haven't done so already, please contact me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com as I'd like to hear more about your relationship.

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    4. I feel pretty much in your situation, but mostly because of our age. My sister and I always wanted each other, teased each other, but failed to go forward. Now she is 47(gorgeous) and i am 45, and i really wanna get in bed with her. Tell me how you would approach it. Thanks in any case.

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    5. Anonymous, sounds like you are on your way already. My best geners advice is here: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html

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  27. Hi keith, no replies for me ?

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  28. My gut feeling and also me finding evidence, on my ex's phone brought me here! I strongly disagree with this idea it's" okay" to have thoughts, or to have sex with a sibling. This is sicking and appalling and these ppl need help! I cant believe the stories on here. Clearly there are some serious mental issues involving the ppl on here. You guys cant justify the sick act, by throwing the Bible in here! God is against incest. period!

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    3. But if they don't believe in god- or at least, not your god or your bible then it is not so wrong. Only in your mind, and yet, it should have no effect on you unless they're using your bed with you in it.

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  29. Also It's truly unbelievable, that these comments are saying how they are sexually involved with their parents, and think It's normal NO ITS NOT ! You need to seek professional help! That is evil and totally wrong. I'll pray u seek help.

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    1. Take away the fact their parents in this scenario and I doubt you'd care, once the line has been crossed, the familial role takes a backseat to the relationship, so what's the difference?, what makes it any less moral than any non related relationship?, why do people having consensual sex their happy with need professional help?, I don't think these "professionals" would help anybody, brainwashing maybe, but definitely not helping, your definition of evil doesn't stand up, evil is killing, raping, war, child molestation, the list goes on, consensual sex/love/marriage between consensual adults doesn't harm anybody, evil is people in society with this mindset criminalizing, discriminating and bullying innocent people for loving eachother on the basis of what people like you consider to be "evil" and "wrong", thinking yourself above people involved in these types of relationships only makes you a self entitled person, clearly your ex is better off without your ass!.

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  30. I talked my wife into taking our son's virginity. Some may look down on that, but we never had to worry about him getting some girl pregnant or getting involved with any other bad influences. He managed top marks all through HS and college. That was over fifteen years ago and we couldn't be closer. He is now married with a kid of his own.

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  33. To the narrow-minded paranoid untrusting woman going through partners phone, don't word vomit about stuff you dont have the intellect for, if you knew anything about god and his word, it says in the bible we are all brothers and sisters of jesus etc, also alot of incest in genesis until god later said no more incest marriages etc only because of the genetic problems where kids are concerned thousands of years later. all i can say to you as narrow-minded and government law nut, is you are the sick one and mentally you need help because you are mentally undeveloped to have such hate especially when u seem to have a view on god, if this is because you are christian are you not meant to love and respect others, are you not told TO NOT JUDGE UNLESS YOU SHALL BE JUDGE, who are you, you are certainly not god, you only think and believe incest is wrong because society and laws that are man-made have told you to think and believe that way, so you are the one that need professional help because you let society and the law dictate your beliefs feelings and whole life. Bullying is worse than anything else in this world, who are any of us to say what another should be ashamed of, scare of etc, everyone deserves a right to be who they are. And before u think u know anything about me, i aint dating or sleeping with my family im married to someone im not at all related to! But i respect everyone equally and like god, i have compassion and unconditional love for every living thing god has created, even u no matter how narrow-minded or fouled mouthed u are, i still forgive u with the love in my heart because as jesus said 'THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DO, so u do not know what your saying. so better yourself and have a happy life god bless!

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  34. Fascinating - How all of these (negative word-vomiters) spend time on a forum that allegedly repels them. Wonder what kind of bats are really flying around in their belfries?

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  35. My relationship with my mother began when she was 49 and I was 28 when I was home visiting for a week for Thanksgiving, while my step father was dying of cancer. It was a very lonely, depressing time for my mother, and in the many months leading up to my visit, she and I would discuss many subjects that were not typical of a mother son conversation (including sex). We told each other things we would never tell another living soul, and I began to see my mother not just as my mom, but as a women too.
    When I went to visit, she was more affectionate than I remembered, and that very evening she exposed herself to me by opening her legs while she was I her bath robe as we watched TV. Later that night, she wound up at my bedside in tears about everything that was going on in her life. After a heart to heart talk, she asked me in so many words if I thought she was beautiful, and when I answered her, she asked me if I was willing to have sex with her.
    What happened between us that night was nothing short of magic. I've never felt such a close connection with any woman I had been intimate with than I did with my mother. She pleaded with me to cum inside her, and I each time I did she cried out to me to keep cumming as she experienced powerful orgasms.
    The next morning we discussed what had happened last night, and when we were sure we were OK with what had happened we ended up having sex again. For the duration of my visit we went at it every chance we could, and by the time I had to leave, we both admitted we didn't want to be apart from each other. My mother asked me to move home, and due to circumstances beyond my control I ended up moving home within a week and a half.
    From that moment on, my mother and I have been ardent lovers, leading to us being in a committed relationship for some years. Neither of us have any regrets about who we are doing, as a matter of fact the whole experience has brought us closer than I ever though possible. 15 years later, we are still very much in love with each other, but have come to grips that what we have will always be our secret.

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    2. Wow. I'm so glad I found this forum. Although my situation was different, I have been in a relationship with my mother for a couple of years now. It is nice to read that someone else is also involved so that I don't feel like a total freak. One thing I will say, it is the most passionate relationship that you can imagine.

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    4. without going into details,i just want to say that i had a long sexual relationship with my mother,starting when i was 16.This was a wonderful experience that lasted over 20 years,even after i got married.

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    6. Anonymous,a very touching story indeed.You have both been lucky and happy together and that's what counts.How are things today?

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  36. Consensual sex should not be regulated by the government and people should be able to marry anyone that wants to marry them regardless of genetic or familial relationships. Rape however should always be punished harshly and I do mean rape not rape simply because one consensual partner is younger than the other.

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    1. You can't consent under a certain age, period. Sixteen at the least, eighteen preferably. Before then, it's impossible to handle the pressure of a sexual relationship without negative impacts.

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  37. I have one female cousin who flirt with me lot and heard that she copulate with lot of my family..She behave to me so odd and show a sign that she might want having sex with me but I'm not sure..So I made the list of what her behavior to me when she is around to me and you tell me if she really mean that.

    1. She hold my hand
    2. She sat me too closely
    3. The way she hug and kiss me like if she were my girlfriend
    4. She fixes her hair often alot when I around with her
    5. She watch me when I slept the couch (Which I just woke up and she walk past the room, watch me briefly)
    6. She knock door, want me to open the bathroom soon as I just got out of shower. She then turn shower back on and left..

    Does these sign mean that she have feeling toward to me and sex with me?

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  38. I in no way find my mom or sisters sexual... but I am additcted to incest porn. why ?

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      I couldn't tell you without knowing more about you and your thoughts, but I do know this is very common. Consanguinamory themes in erotica are very, very popular. How many people fantasize about having a threesome with twins? Well that alone involves consanguinamory on same level. There are many people interested in erotica of this nature or have fantasies who have no sexual interest in their own real-life family members.

      Conversely, there are many people involved in consanguinamory who have no interest in erotica with such themes.

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  39. i was molested by my sister as a child. she would babysit me and my older brother and would make me do things to her. i think this went on for a couple of years and then i did the same thing to my younger sister about 7 years later. my parents found out what i done to my sister but never found out what was done to me. i hear all these stories about incest but i dont think i would really do it. i do go to incest porn sites, i like them but i really don't know why? i think the reason for this is because my sister messed up my head when i was a kid, i don't want to be like this but i am. what kind of help do you think i need

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      https://rainn.org/get-information/types-of-sexual-assault/incest
      http://www.pandys.org/articles/siblingsexualabuse.html
      http://www.siawso.org/

      It's amazing the amount of information you can get from just googling.

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  40. I have married my sister. We are from India and here in our culture, it is comsidered to be a sin. The thing is, westarted kissing each other on the lips when we were teenagers. After that,we took further steps to bath together upon reallising that we are in love. Then we started sleeping with each other when parents were away. Earlier we had decided that we will marry different individuals, but keep our relationship alive. Butthe fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony... itmade us marry each other but secretly and only after our parents passed away in an accident... We have now stared our life anew and have moved to another country. We have twin kids and they are both amazing... we don't think we did anything wrong.

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  41. Brother I am with you all along and will be there if needed in times of trouble. Bless you. 'humhainna21@gmail.com

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  42. It doesn't harm me, why should I care what people get up to?, anything bad anyone can say on this matter has it's own law against it anyway, so why should people be punished for loving someone in whichever way they want (providing it doesn't break othee existing laws) just because they are related?, we live in a society that sticks the label of "Mental Illness" on people who don't agree with the governments thinking, there's nobody in my family that I would like to have sex with but if there was it would tick me off that I'd be labeled a "Sex Offender" for doing so, my verdict?, if you wanna have sex with a family member, have at it boss. :)

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  43. Ok here goes...
    Incest has ruined my life. I'm 21 and it's all I can think about. When I was 13 and my sister was 11 we had a sexual relationship for around 6 months to a year. Although she consented I was coercive and persuasive about it. It was only when I got to 14 I realised how fucked up and wrong it was on so many levels. My mum was emotionally and physically abusive to us, my dad had just walked out and my nan (almost like a second mum) had just died. I was bullied at school and my head was so messed up. I took this out on my sister. I was so wrong, this is such a taboo subject that it's not like I can even speak to friends etc about it.

    I spoke about it to my sister and she says she forgives me. But I can't forgive myself. And now I live with this mental torture everyday, I can't find happiness in anything because I don't feel I deserve it after what I put her through. She has such a kind heart as well. We have a better relationship now, we talk a lot and I feel she has regained a lot of trust for me. But still this whole incest thing runs through my head 24/7. Why did I do this? I feel like a monster, I feel I don't deserve to live even though I have so much going for me, all over a stupid mistake I made when I was young. I feel I will never be able to overcome this. I need help, and I think she probably will too.

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    2. Something I think you might want to think about. We are, none of us, the same people at 21 as were when we were 13. I understand you'r guilt feelings, and this shows to me your humanity. Your sister evidently has, or is in the process of, forgiving you. I think you need to forgive yourself, but I also know that it isn't that simple. There is no question of Statutory Rape, really, as you were both underage and you yourself were being abused yourself. I can only hope that you now love and cherish your little sister more than ever before. Time does not always heal all wounds, but you two might be the best therapists for each other there could ever be. Someday she will have children and you will want to be there for them. See that they do not suffer the sadness you did in your younger years. Be fair to yourself. You realized how wrong you were pretty soon, even as a teenager, and teenagers usually don't see right and wrong the way it really is. They see different shades of right and wrong to make it alright to do what they wish to do, but you did not. Hug your sister. Don't try to forget it. Sometimes we repeat mistakes when we forget the results, but don't crucify yourself day in and day out. You are no good to anyone that way.

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  44. One must never committ suicide. If you made a mistake you have corrected it. What's
    Done is done. Please go for counciling or do some meditation toget your peace of mind back.

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  45. Hi everyone
    Im from Greece Im 34m active with my sis whos 30 for 12 yrs, we have a 4 yo healthy son. Our mum knows almost since we started. I believe that if both sides feel ok abt it and they are both adults I see no wrong at all in it.
    After all its all abt love satisfaction and eventually happiness .

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  46. Sex is nothing more than a means to an end. It doesn't matter how you get off as long as you spread your seed. life depends upon it. Incest is nothing more than keeping it in the family. A hand is a hand. A mouth is a mouth. We all having burning desires to get off. Its a neverending cycle that follows us through life. I wasn't raised to think of incest as normal. Therefore, I cannot imagine it within my own family. But if somewhere along the line my offspring started down that path, I wouldnt complain. The truth always finds its way. And I somehow think that corruption led us to believe that incest is bad. Because it is actually biblical.

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  47. Hello all.......
    It's so difficult to find a site that discusses this issue without guys just saying "yeah bro go for it, just stick in her". This is a serious issue and whether it appeals or not - should be taken seriously.
    There is often a great desire for people to try an incestuous relationship or just experiment with a family member - but as great as the desire may be....... the feeling of regret is quite often even greater, affecting at least one of the participants for the remainder of their life.

    I am myself a lesbian, I have a membership at wonderful adult chat site. I have tried six or seven of these sites now before settling down on the current one. But one thing for sure that I can state - each of these sites that I've tried have one by one deleted the Incest story categories along with the stories as well as banned anything that remotely relates to incest.

    The reason given by the site owners for this was not the illegal side of the act, it was quite simply with the great amount of experience and knowledge they had accrued, a very high percentage of incest experiences were in fact non-consensual (rape) and involved minors. So therefore they had no desire to encourage any of those type of prople to join their sites.

    I really wish there was a 'women only' site that catered for incest matters as so many men have such poor sexual views or comments and take so little of sexual subjects and problems seriously.

    I know that people will wonder if I have had an experience and the answer is yes. Four years ago my brother and I started masturbating together. We're both open minded and we're very close so sexual matters are easily dealt with and without embarrassment. I love masturbation and with my brother it adds much excitement particularly as every so often I like to relieve him my self with my hands (yes despite my sexuality) because I love to see his ejaculation and be the reason for it.

    One day I asked him if he would ever consider having full sex with me - just the once. He stated yes but as long as it is only once. We discussed it again a number of times and I went on the pill. Mum and Dad had a weekend away in Wales and with this date in mind we planned for this time together.

    Our parents left at 6:00 am and my brother and I spent the morning and early afternoon together eating, drinking and just being close. We went shopping at a nearby shopping village and I got my brother to choose some underwear for me that he'd like to have me in. We got back at just after 3:00 pm, we showered and I put on the pale blue matching underwear and white lace hold-ups that he'd chosen.

    I know that this blog does not allow certain things to be submitted so I will describe our activities no further, but I will just say that it happened just the once as agreed, it was a massive success and we had the most beautiful sex - my first and only intercourse, and even now three years later, we still masturbate together.

    My advice to anyone looking to try an incestuous relationship is to take it one step at a time. Learn to talk about sexual matters first, to be open without embarrassment and at least then you can decide what is enough for you.

    Incest.......
    1) Learning to talk openly about sexual matters without embarrassment. Understand what you are about to embark on before you start.
    2) Masturbate together, watch each other, learn about each others needs and desires.
    3) occasionally bring touching into the masturbation.
    4) never rush the masturbation, make it last and make sure you won't be disturbed.
    5) Know your limits and realise your partner's - know when to stop.

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    2. I find this somewhat offensive. I have incestuous thoughts about my mom, and they are NOT wholly lust-based. I truly love her, and am disgusted that you categorized all men as being so barbaric. In fact, I would love to be with my mom for just a relationship.

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    3. To Lucy. I see you starting down a road that I have witnessed before. Do not start making the mistake of lumping all men into one insensitative category simply we have a penis. It is evident to me that your brother is quite thoughtful of your feelings. You allowed him to be your first and even in today's world that is a great honor. I have a friend who is Lesbian who (verbally) cuts men off at the knees simply because they are men. She admits that she has had no bad sexual encounters with a man. She just says,"Lesbians hate men, thats the way it is". Would you want to be lumped in with another woman with an attitude like that? I know a man who is homosexual that thinks women are less than what they are. That their lack of a penis equates them to a lack of intelligence.I don't see this as YOU, but it is a slippery slope. The writings of the men you have seen as the 'go for it' attitude are simply the ones that have written. Not men in general. I have seen here that you had a very good experience with your brother and I won't encourage you to further it. That is between you. I will say this. If this is the only heterosexual relationship you can ever have you should embrace it whether it proceeds or not. Love your brother as yourself. If you can, do. If you can't, just love him. Oh, and on your list for Incest? #6: always let there be love.

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  48. My sister loves the taste of my semen and I love hers (she is a gusher), best sex we ever had, by far!

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  49. I am a widowed man aged 50 living with my teenage sons and a widowed sister aged 40 who lost her husband 2 years ago , I am starved of sex for last few years and am thinking if it would be right for us to get into a relationship? If Yes then How should i find if she is willing without hurting her , so far we have not done any such thing and she respects me as an elder brother ?

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  50. When I was around 10-11 I had sexual relations with my sister. She's about 3 and a bit years younger. I don't know if we had intercourse. It started with kissing then ended up with me rubbing up against her with no clothes. It was dark so I don't know if we had sex or not, I was also very young and didn't know what I was doing. This continued for a while, I'm writing this because this experience has caused me to become depressed and I have developed anxiety. I think this is because of when I found that society deems this as unnatural and disgusting. It has destroyed me. I am deciding wether to get therapy. I need some help and advice I feel alone, bad, sick, evil. What do I do? I would also like to add; I was never attracted to my sister it was purely out of curiosity and pleasure. I was hormonal at the time

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  51. sir, i am a widow woman and after death of my husband i have started living with my brother who has been separated from his wife due to some differences between them about three years ago. I am much younger to him and am good looking too ,but both of us are living a miserable life after losing our spouses due to death or separation .

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  52. My sister Terry and I have a minimal history of experimentation while growing up. We sometimes would interact by humoring ourselves with 'nasty' jokes and games of truth-&-dare that would leave us stripped to our undershorts. As we grew more sexually aware, then peeking on one another while bathing/dressing became more common. At one point I walked in (with full erection) and briefly joined her while showering. Startled but not scared, we stood together under the water without speaking for a few minutes, looking intently at each other up and down before she said "your turn" and got out.
    The sparse patch of pubic hair and small, pointed breast buds of her developing body was my first real exposure to the female form and the mental image of her naked body fueled my imagination many times during my early days of sexual recognition and masturbation. It was'nt untill later on in life that we ever talked about our mild escapades with each other; a seemingly awkward subject became a happy reflection of our growing up together. My sister and I realised that we shared equal fantasies while masturbating and we now playfully consider each other as our "first" sex partner.
    We found ourselves sharing the same views questioning social conviction and find it odd that most "normal" relationships have fewer reasons to be consimated sexually than does a sibling relationship where love and trust usually run much deeper. Sex should be employed resposibly regardless of who your partner is. In light of this rational,we have re-discovered the pleasures of our past. We had engaged a few times in short oral sex encounters during holiday get-togethers over the years but more recent we have had full sex and now plan on getting together more frequently.

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    2. I have been researching this topic for the last 2 days and your story is familiar to a one that my best friend confided in me regards her sister about 30 years ago. Very similar, my friend and her sister sharing showers together in a West African middle class home. Not a done thing. With him with full blast erection and the sister touching it.
      He was asking advice whether it was alright to have sex and saying his sister is wearing provocative pants and parading infront of him.

      I said he must be mad to go ahead with such a thing. And it this conversation has reoccurred and I am quite shocked with the prevalence especially Mother/Son and Brother/Sister.

      Surprisingly there is little Father/Daughter confessions here, Why??
      Majority of the mothers seem to be going through some monumental personal issues. I need to read more......but I think I can see a pattern emerging.

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    3. The higher prevalence of mother/son vs. father/daughter relationships is a real thing. Plenty of people have observed it. It's not understood why, though.

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  53. we are adult siblings who have recently entered into a relationship with consent but sometimes when i am alone i do feel guilty and it seems that my female partner to feels similar as i find her lost in some thoughts . I have asked her so many times if she feels uncomfortable but she always says that she is willing and she wants relationship with me. Please advise how can we get rid of this feeling of guilt?

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  54. I have to admit, I liked your article. The problem is, so many of law makers are close minded, and stuck n the old way of thinking, that incest (consensual or other wise), is illegal in most states. Even if it is just sex, and would other wise be considered legal. Who knows, maybe that will change in the future, think about it, not that long ago, gay sex was taboo/illegal, now gay marriage is legal. There is no telling what the future holds.

    Now personally speaking, I am a 32 year old male with 3 sisters, and more than a few cousins, many of whom I have had fantasies about, and in fact still do. Keep in mind, all are legal age, but because of the legality/taboo of such things, I have never admitted it except to myself.

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  57. (continued again. Last one.)


    It's been 17 or 18 years since that night. My sister and I are both married (not to each other, lol) and she actually acted as the officiant for my wedding. Both of us have kids, jobs, etc. We've both been fairly successful in our lives. My wife has no idea about our history, nor does my brother-in-law. My wife has remarked on how open my sister and I are with each other, and how it's a little weird, but at this point she and I live five hours apart so we see each other pretty rarely.

    Honestly, I'd love to have sex with my sister again. Even at 39, she's still a very attractive woman. I don't know if she'd still be interested. I suspect not, but the situation just isn't going to come up, unfortunately. We're basically never alone together.

    I think incest like this is probably really common. I don't know of any other brother-sister couples, but I did have an old gf tell me about some early sexual experiences with her father that didn't seem to traumatize her to badly.

    Another girl I dated with "daddy issues" didn't really know her father, but when she and I were seeing each other I was 16 years her senior. She used to call me "daddy" whenever we were alone, and late at night when we were in bed together we spun this elaborate mythology about each other, and how she was actually my daughter and how I'd made her out of my dreams. It's was weird stuff, and very intense. It concerned me a little, since this was a girl who was a bit off her rocker and she was still in high school when we'd met (over 18 though.) Eventually we split up but the last I heard she was acting as a sugar baby to some guy even older than I am. Honestly, I'd bet she is very happy in that relationship.

    It's just a big, crazy world, with a lot of different kinds of people. So many people have these private lives where they do or fantasize about all kinds of things that society wouldn't approve of. My feeling is that the less we judge others, the more free we ourselves become.

    Thanks for putting this page together, and to everyone who has commented thus far.

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  58. I'm conflicted about this issue.

    I have had an intense sexual feeling towards my half-sister since I was 11 years old; she's 9 years older than me. To make a long story short, over the years we were very infrequently affectionate to the point of near sexual contact, more on my part than hers. But when I turned 23 she began to be a lot more sexually overt with me until the point that I told her that i wanted to have intercourse with her. I couldn't take the touching anymore without actual sex. She finally agreed, but that only happened once.

    About ten years or so later we started touching and being very affectionate and sexual again, but no intercourse. She even told me she wanted to do this again, but it never happened. One reason is because she was married with children but she hadn't had children that first time.

    The problem is that she now behaves as though none of this ever happened, to the point I'm actually questioning whether I somehow made this up in my imagination, even though I have some pretty clear and persistent memories of it. One particularly strong memory is when she told me in a swimming pool at a friends house, while we were alone, that she wanted to have sex with me again. But she now acts as though she has no memory of it at all. It's not a good feeling.

    The reason I'm conflicted is that I'm not sure I view it as right and moral any longer, and I beleive in morality/right and wrong even though I still have lingering sexual attraction for her. I can't even ask her to help me sort out my feelings anymore because it's like it never happened in her memory. These feelings can feel very good but in the long run lead to confusion and distress.

    I'm leaving out a lot of details of it but I don't want to go on too long...

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  59. My sister an i started touching and playing with one another when i was about 13 she was about 10,we would get naked an get into her bed then about 2 mths later we went further and had sex.we both enjoyed it and never felt guilty.incest is between us,recently she got me into crossdressing and i find i realy enjoy and feel comfatable wearing and dressing in womens clothing.incest is common but some hide it.when i go out in car i take sis we act as a couple and nobody know..

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  60. I was always attracted to my mom. When I was a young boy, before my teens, I used to lay close with mom on her bed in the afternoons while she would read her women's magazines. I sometimes touched her breasts accidentally. After half an hour or so of reading, she'd fell sleepy, roll to the side and fall half asleep. Then I would plant my face close to her large breasts and sometimes fondle them. She was aware of what I was doing because she would be half awake when I touched her, she didn't seem to mind. I should note that I was rarely breast fed as a baby, which may have triggered my yearning for mom. These afternoon bed moments soon stopped as I reached my pre-teens.

    Through my teens, I put my feelings for mom to the side for some years. I sensed my dad rarely ever made moves on mom, I was convinced they hadn't been intimate for years.

    When I was 18, I approached mom one evening when dad was out,while watching tv with her. Mom wore her regular loose fitting night gown which sparked my urge. I asked mom simply if I could touch her breasts, by which time I had a visible erection and I didn't let it hide. She laughed it off at first, but agreed and I caressed her large breasts with my hands and mouth. She then proceeded to masturbate me with her hand. The fact she let me be with her in such a way meant to me she was approving and so I repeated this exercise with mom three more times in that year or so. We never had intercourse and I never touched her beyond her breasts.

    I'm now 33, mom and I have never repeated those nights and we've never talked about the experience we had. We still get a long very well. I have very fond feelings for those moments, and I don't regret a single moment that my mother allowed me to be with her in such a way.

    Thanks for reading.


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  61. Anonymous, you raped your 10-year-old sister.

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  62. Royals and peasants have also buggered animals and corpses since time began. That doesn't make it healthy, dears.

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  63. Anonymous November 13, you do need help or this will destroy you. Most know by instinct that it's wrong and I can't believe you weren't at least taught otherwise. Many people do things they regret when they're young. Please get help.

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    1. I agree. It is a disorder, and it is easy to see we struggle these days even more than before, but people try convincing themselves they only need to laugh it off, and those narcissistic arseholes do not know shit, or care what other people feels or know.

      And sadly is that in the big picture, they would make themselves fit in just like everyone else, almost no notice as it grows, if there is almost no notice there is almost no cons about it, and if there is almost no cons about it there can mostly just be pros about it, and they forget the numbers, and it grows.

      I do not know if it is jokes or not, but one should not even be joking about it, let alone not admitting it is a problem is a big problem in itself..

      Youth, should go read a book of brain-neurology and neurons, there is more than one way than just laugh or have sex to feel good..

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  64. Would sexual attraction between family show up less when the person has low self esteem?

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  65. Hi I am 21 years old and I have a Brother who is 23 years old. We we both adopted into separate families, him at birth and me much later We met when we were in our early teens but never really got to know each other all that well because he has issues of addiction and my parents kept me away from him. This past year we have gotten really close and have begun to have a consensual sexual and romantic relationship. We both remember having feelings for one another when we first met and we both love each other very much. I know that I am in love with him but I worry that his addiction to drugs is somehow influencing our relationship because I am an enabler. I am also worried because alot have people have noticed that we do not have a normal sibling relationship. They do not know he extent of our relationship but they suspect that we are sexually involved. all I know is that I am in love with my brother and the sex with him is just an added bonus (a really good one I might add). Im still pretty conflicted because of his drug addiction and not knowing how that influences our relationship or his way of thinking. he says that he is in love with me and that if he could he would marry me. Im also worried about what I should do about how others see our relationship because we are so close and he is my best friend even before the sex and stuff. I was always very affectionate towards him. Sorry Im rammbling its just a lot on my mind.

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    1. Thanks for reaching out. Feel free to write me privately at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com. Addiction is very bad news. It sounds like you are both experiencing GSA. Most people I know of experiencing GSA are not abusing substances, so the substances are not causing GSA and probably isn't causing him to be with you. He's with you, most likely, because we wants to be. The pain of GSA can drive people to seek escape in substance abuse, that is for sure, but it isn't like people are experiencing GSA because they are high or drunk. It is important for you to protect youself when dealing with an addict, regardless of relation. Again, please feel free to write to me privately.

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  66. I speak of what i think, feel and believe you can go ahead and laugh at me all you want you can mock me all you want and you can insult me all you want but you wont break me so here goes nothing i guess. Im boht LUCIFER and JEHOVAH those are who i really am My divine mother gave birth to me she fell in love with me and she lost her virginity to me my divine aunts also fell in love with me each of them gave me their virginity my divine grandmother have incredibly strong feelings of love for me but i havent accepted her love yet i believe its all true or almost everything at least i speak what comes to mind. My divine mother created only the universe, heaven and angels while i (as LUCIFER/JEHOVAH) created music, planet earth, hell, purgatory and humanity i created maybe over 100 even 1000 other planets for life to exist on would you feel amazed or not and would you think im GOD or not ? or would you think my divine mother is GOD maybe ? you can believe what you want and heres something thats definetly true my divine mother and i conceived JESUS CHRIST for real no lies no deception and i entrusted my youngest son to MARY MAGDALENE or THE VIRGIN MARY as you call her she was like a surrogate mother. Would you still thought that incest is wrong after heard what i had to say if the creator of angelkind fell in love with her son namely your creator namely me i do not claim im the highest being in all of existence i do not try to do blasphemy i just say what comes to mind you can verbally assault me all you want but i wont back down for misguided fools like you anyone who says incest is wrong is like a heartless monster if anyone hopes of still living in heaven you then have to learn to accept the fact that incest is okay because my divine mother fell in love and commited incest with me and if MARY MAGDALENE fell in love with her divine son namely my youngest son JESUS CHRIST and the two commited incest and had 2 or more healthy children together would you still claim incest is wrong ? or would you change your mind and would you still believe in my son JESUS even if he commited incest i say a true believer should believe in someone even that someone isnt perfect by your definition of what perfection is. Thats all i had to say farewell you foolish, blind, naive and misguided mortals.

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  67. I've found 2 men online with brothers with whom they were involved with consensual incest. One said he and his brother used to do the f word. Some kind of way I got off the chat room before I could ask him whether that meant make out, a deep passionate kiss with his brother, or if it meant the back end and/or oral s word. I even more wanted to ask him why they quit whatever it was they were doing. I think it would be sickening for a man and woman married as husband and wife to do the back end and oral s word. But I'd like to know if any father and son or brohers have had consentual inceset, but you stopped and if so, why? I saw someone on youtube the other day who said his borther who was only 13 or 14 had the s word with him and he was only 12 I think. He talked like they were real close. He said his brother has quit doing that with him and married a woman and has a son. I asked what made him and his brother stop. Next time I was on youtube, his comment from Daniel, was gone.

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  68. About 5 or 6 years ago, my half-sister and I had been reunited In our adult lives. We did not grow up together. I'm 35 and she is 24. When we reconnected, we instantly established a great bond and she has become a tremendous value in my life.

    The other day we had a heart-to-heart during a fun night out. We have both confessed to each other, that we have each been harboring sexual feelings towards each other ever since we reconnected. We have dreamt and fantasizes about each other and now we are both excited and happy to learn that these dark secret feelings have been mutual this whole time.

    We are now grappling with the decision of whether or not to experiment together to pursue these feelings. We have both felt extraordinary sexual frustration and turmoil in our current relationships. This frustration makes it all the more tempting ever since we talked.

    My biggest fear is to ruin the amazing relationship we have built over these last years. She is such a beautiful, wonderful, amazing person, and I can not picture my life without her in it. On one hand I fear that sex could tear us apart and make things worse. On the other hand, I'm also afraid to miss out on what could be a truly amazing development in our relationship.

    What if it's really amazing? What if it's really bad? What if she resents me for it later? What if we get caught? There are so many questions and emotions to grapple with. I would love to hear from any one else who's come from a similar situation. I'd be curious about the long-term outcome, whether good or bad.

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  69. hello, keith, i wanted some advise from you, n even mailed you at your yahoo.com id but was not able to send a mail,, please tell me some another way to contact u..

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  70. I've used two different approaches and arrived at the same guesstimate on the prevalence of sibling couples in the general population: from one in a thousand to one in a FEW thousand.

    * The rate of first- and second-cousin marriages in the Western world is ~0.5% -- or ~0.8% if you look at Europe only, instead of the US, in some parts of which cousin marriages are banned. Suppose half of those are between first-cousins, so we divide the figure by 2. The average Westerner has at most 1 sibling and 4 first-cousins, so we divide the figure by 4. Consider that there is only roughly a 50% chance that the sibling is of the other sex, but a ~92% chance that one of the 4 cousins is of the other sex. If you believe there are greater psychological or circumstantial constraints to a committed relationship between siblings versus cousins, you may further divide the figure.

    * It's estimated that 2-5% of people have had consensual intercourse with a sibling. At the same time, it's noted that the overwhelming majority of those cases are only of one-time or occasional incidents (perhaps, 80%?). Moreover, from anecdotal observation on the Internet, I have the impression that romantic interest in family members is much less common than sexual interest (10 times at the very least?), and much fewer people have been in a committed relationship with a family member than had sex with one. Do the math again, and voila.

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    1. Interesting, I think that's an underestimation. If 10% of peolle in their early 20s have already had sexual contact with a sibling, the numbers are going to increase as they age up. Granted, they aren't all intercourse situations or romances, but some are. And it is a certainty that Genetic Sexual Attracrion cases are on the rise. Also, generally, people have more access and bonding to siblings than cousins. While that may mean a stronger presence of the Westermarck Effect in some, that is not experienced by all and so it means a stronger likelihood of a full relationship in others.

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    2. Quite likely. I did try to remain conservative in the estimates.

      I came across a similar figure, namely "10-15%," several years ago. But I don't know where it came from, or if it might have been from the same source as yours. I only remember that the subjects had probably been students surveyed in their respective educational institutions.

      More recently, I saw the results of an online survey similarly putting the figure at 9.5% (excluding non-blood relatives).
      http://i.imgur.com/NIrF7.jpg

      If you adjust for factors such as age, gender and family size, including single-child households, then it has to be more like 1/5, at the least (which is a lot! of course).

      However, I doubt that the percentage increases much in later life, for the following reasons:
      1. A substantial portion, or even the majority, of those sexual contacts must be purely exploratory in nature, less relevant for adults compared with minors;
      2. Westerners rarely live together with their siblings (or parents) past their mid-twenties, might live hours away and generally start seeing them much less often;
      3. By that age, many have married or settled down in a serious monogamous relationship.

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    3. By the way, how do you know GSA is on the rise?

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    4. My explanation for GSA being in the rise is here: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2015/03/myth-i-dont-know-anyone-who-has.html

      Of course the percentages go up as the ages do, even slightly, because there has been more opportunity. Most long term relationships do end in a breakup or divorce. Then there's also death. These things, along with illnesses, weddings, and funerals can bring family members together in times of high emotion. As an example, middle-aged siblings can find themselves divorced and together, catching up with each other, and one thing can lead to another.


      Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Keep them coming!

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    5. My sister (now age 59) and I (61) actually ended up together after she had an unexpected divorce and moved in with me. We had "experimented" together at a young age and stopped in the late teens . When she moved in, I had just planned a vacation driving up the Califormia coast and she came along. As we drove, we stopped at beaches along the highway and many were clothing optional and we "did as the Romans". It was at a nude beach just past Santa Cruz where we were watching a sunset when, on the spur of the moment, we kissed. That shock led to a very romantic interlude - that hasn't stopped even after 12 years. Something that amazes us both is that the passion between us has not faded as did in our marriages.

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    6. Anonymous, I'd very much like to hear from you privately. Please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

      And congrats on your love.

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  71. I am in love with my niece. She didn't grow up around me (little contact) but when she was 27 and I was 45 we became reacquainted. We loved each other's company and there was a strong sexual undercurrent. We eventually crossed that line, after a while of joking about it (fckng genetics ha-ha). Now we are planning to move to a state where there are no criminal penalties, and eventually want to move to Canada where we can marry. This is the best, most mutually supportive, purest love I have ever known. The friendship and trust are deep, the sex is great, only the way we know many will react is unpleasant. But we are willing to pay the price; once we are in a safe place (I think nj and ri are our only choices in the states?) we plan on having a "coming out" party.

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    1. NJ and RI are safe for now. You may also want to talk with a family law attorney in NY as it might be possible to get legally married there base in recent court precedent. Congratulations on your love. I'd like to stay in touch with you so if you'd email me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com that would be great.

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    2. They're just uncle and niece, Ohio is open too. Hell, they could move to Canada! Once you get beyond 1st-degree relatives and half-siblings, it gets easier and easier to find a place where it's legal.

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  72. My parents had four kids. I am the oldest son, and I have two sisters and a much-younger brother. My parents divorced when I was sixteen and my oldest sister was fourteen. My mother struggled with alcoholism after the divorce. My father married a much-younger woman. Dad was 41 and she was 23, only seven years older than me. The feelings of loss and abandonment nearly wrecked our family. I hated my father. Our mother was trying to work full-time, go to school at night and still keep the house running. In order to do this, my oldest sister and I took on much of the cooking, cleaning, shopping, getting the younger kids ready for school, etc. In effect, we sort of took on a parental role in the house, including disciplining the younger kids. I spanked my younger brother several times for things like wandering off away from the house without telling us where he was going (he was eight, I was about seventeen.)
    My oldest sister and I began to grow closer and closer. We attended the same high school. One night when our mother was at an AA convention and we had the house to ourselves, we threw a small party where people drank and smoked pot. She and I both got very intoxicated, and after everyone left, we wound up having a "last drink" together laying on my bed. We were teasing one another and I impulsively kissed her, and one thing led to another. We made love twice before falling asleep. The next day I felt terribly guilty, and we were both very hung over, but after a few days we talked about it and decided it was just a mistake we wouldn't repeat. But then a week or so later, I felt very strongly attracted to her, went to her room and she reciprocated my approach to her and we made love twice again. We started "dating" by going places together as brother and sister, but pretended we were just a regular couple. We held publicly hands when we walked. We made out in the movies (after carefully making sure nobody we knew was there) and other stuff that teen-aged couples do. We talked about running away together and living as a couple somewhere far away from our family. This romantic and sexual relationship lasted until I was in my early twenties, and by accident our mother discovered us. She shamed my sister, but said nothing to me. Sis was very upset and broke off our relationship. Over the years we exchanged some love letters, even after my sister married. One time I had to go to a formal dinner and dance after she was married, and I asked her to go, and she did (she was beautiful.) We danced together, and allowed the other people to think we were just a regular couple. That night when I took her home, I wanted to make love with her, but she said, "We can't do that anymore, but I still love you, and I wish we could." We see each other at family events like Christmas and Thanksgiving, and she always kisses me warmly, but the relationship is over and I miss her terribly.

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    3. I was in a similar situation. My father was out of the picture and my mother was having a long term affair with her married boss and ignored us most of the time. My brother and I pretty much raised ourselves and when we were little, we would snuggle like a couple of puppies for comfort because no one else was hugging us or showing affection. When we got in our early teens, his hormones kicked in and things got uncomfortable. I loved my brother, but I was always apprehensive that he was going to try something and I wouldn't be able to stop him. He never did anything other than long hugs and seemed on the edge of tears sometimes. I had friends, but he never really did. He left home after graduating from high school to enlist in the Navy and I almost never saw him again after that. He loved me and wanted to sleep with me and that pretty much ruined our relationship as siblings. Maybe if I wasn't so scared that he might rape me, I might have had a better relationship with him. I talked to a therapist and she said he likely fixated on me because I was the only person whom he believed loved him and men express love through sex and he didn't have any other women in his life to love him. That and the sex drive of a teenage boy being what it is made life pretty tough for him. I really felt bad for him, but I am still convinced that if I showed more affection to him back then, what I feared might happen probably would. It would be like the first crack in a dam. The strange thing is, I've had sex dreams where he and I were making love and I would have orgasms which I can't do with straight penetration. I've been on medication for depression and have been married and divorced twice. There have been moments when I wonder if I would have been happier with my brother as my lover. But I'm fairly certain that if I had, it would probably have ended badly and we would have both hated ourselves. I wish I could think about him without feeling sad.

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  73. we are a brother and sister in adult consensual relationship and are looking for similar couples for friendship/relationship.Where can we find them?if there is a website please tell us.thanks.

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    1. Congratulations on your love. If you want to meet others, send me an email at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

      Connect with me on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/fullmarriageequality

      Also, see here: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2013/08/discussing-consanguinamory.html

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  74. First would like to say wow i came across this site, its great to see how many other brother/sister relationships are happening out their. I met my sister 3 years ago, we are both consenting adults in our 20s. We both fell completely and utterly in love with each other in such a short space of time. We had never grown up together bcuz i was put in care by my mother. We have no secrets and just wish wholeheartedly we could go public. But due to the laws where we live we cant. Its the number 1 thing that gets us down. We fear being caught bcuz the law would have us both jailed, would put both her children in care (not my kids) and that would be the end to something special. We both dont see were doing anything wrong, we love each other dearly and thats all that matters. Before my sister i had been in 5 unsuccessful relationships. My sister had been in abusive relationships by men that would dominate her whole life. I never pushed her and let her tell me whatever she wanted when she was ready, we got close when she saw the passion and actual care and attention i gave her so she became sexually attracted to me like normal people and i also did towards her. She kissed me one day and thats how it started. She said she could never be with another man now bcuz i treat her the way she should be treated, i let her have friends and go out when she wants, i dont beat her when we argue, and we always talk and see eye to eye when we have a civil conversation. I too new she was the one for me before we even had anything physical between us. This site is like secret confessions haha feel great to finally get it off my chest. I used to be a Christian and still do beleive in god, i still pray to god, i just follow all the MAN MADE teachings in the bible. People need to be open minded about these things, the world will never improve if we aint willing to fully open up our true spiritual potential. And yes in the beginning of my relationship with my sister i did have conflicting religious moral views, but i prayed lots to god and the inner truth i see is love is never wrong if it doesn't hurt anyone else. Im grateful i came across this site today :)

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  75. Hi, i wrote the anonymous post on 15/03/16. If i was to write to you at fullmarriageequality@yahoo.com will what we discuss be private and confidential as you would know me by name if i email you and for the sake of not being prosecuted id like to remain anonymous if you was to use anything i had to say? And id also like to meet others in same situation, as would be nice to to speak with others that understand.

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    1. I have always kept the privacy and confidentiality of my email contacts, which number in the many hundreds. Some people make a new free email account to contact me. However, you can join others and remain anonymous and use a handle or avatar at a free forum called Kindred Spirits http://kindred.forumup.com

      Either way, I'd like to hear from you via email, but it it up to you. I'm trying to provide you with more comfort, not make you anxious. So I will not pressure you. You are always welcome to comment here anonymously regardless of whether to contact me or not.

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  76. It's really reassuring to read this blog. I feel like the word "incest" has become a really dirty term to describe something that shouldn't be considered dirty or unnatural. I guess everyones need to fit in with society only serves to perpetuate this derogatory notion that incest is bad, when in reality things are rarely so black and white.
    I'm 25 and I have crushed hard on my brother ever since puberty. I originally thought it was a phase I was going through, and chose to keep my guilty secret to myself. But as time passed and my sexual infatuation with my brother showed no signs of letting up, I began to question whether there was something wrong with me. I did the only thing a 14 year old girl could do in that situation, as incest is illegal and and frowned upon. I probed away at my friends to gauge their reaction and determine what was acceptable and what was "gross."
    Thankfully, you've written a very informative and openminded blog which I hope will serve to reassure anyone who is going through what I initially went through during my teens.
    If by any chance there is a young person reading this comment, my best advice to you would be to relax and remember that we can't help who we are attracted to. I would also say that peer pressure is a big factor when growing up so if you wish to talk to someone, then I would recommend making good use of your online anonymity to talk openly with someone who has gone through what you are going through. My final piece of advice would be to give it time and if your feelings haven't wavered then the next thing to do is talk to the person you are having these feelings for. That might seem completely nuts to you, I know I was terrified of my brother finding out about my feelings for him. But, this only concerns you and the person you are having these feelings for. Remember that being told someone has deep feelings for you is the biggest compliment and most heart warming thing in the world. Especially if those feelings are mutual, and you never know if they're mutual if you both refuse to confront them.
    Revealing my feelings to my brother, at the age of 16, was the best decision I made and one I wished I had made sooner. It was a huge relief when I realised that he wasn't disgusted and our normal brother-sister relationship wasn't damaged. It was also a massive weight off my shoulders and I feel so privileged to have what feels like a very unique relationship with my brother.

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    1. Thank you so much for this. If you haven't done so already, please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

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    2. Hi Anonymous April 4 2016,
      I know exactly what you went through. In growing up with a sibling you sometimes get on, sometimes not but when our hormones start to play with us things can change rapidly. My sexual attraction to my sister started when I was about that age 14 to 15 and she was entering puberty and developing. We got into an experimental phase and she became very curious. We became very close over a short period of time and stopped all that sibling fighting. I know I started thinking of her a whole lot differently but always let her take the lead as I didnt want to be the one making the wrong move. Everything escalated when she insisted on watching me masturbate after which I invited her and she accepted to help me by learning how to give great handjobs. As I say after that things escalated but i know I felt very strongly about her and even started to think what it would be like to spend my life with her. Eventually when she was 23 she stopped it all by saying we would get caught, it was never going to work and we had to stop. I was so upset and distraught it took me a long time to get over it, repeatedly trying to get back, I eventually recognised she was right and despite a number of opportunities in the following years I decided not to engage, anyway thats my story,
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  77. Thank you for this article. Between the article itself and some of the individual comments, there is some really interesting and useful information. I have been attracted to my cousin for as long as I can remember. I am now 36 and she is just a couple of years older than me. I was finally able to tell her about how I feel this morning. While she wasn't exactly welcoming of the idea, she also didn't respond negatively at all. I ended the conversation rather early on so I wouldn't come off as pushy. I don't know how to proceed from here, if I even should at all.

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  78. I'm sorry but incestous relationships are wrong. No one should be having any type of sexual relationship with a close relative. It's wrong and sick. I am not Christian so I will not bring up the bible. The stories on here are wrong on so many levels and encouraging this is also wrong. It is not normal and will only screw things up for everyone in the end. It's not healthy. Get professional help. I wanna throw up after reading all of this.

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    1. If you don't want to do it, don't. You assert these relationships are wrong but did not explain how. Consider that your personal disgust does not make these relationships wrong.

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  79. I m 28 and my niece is 15...i m very much attracted to her and she is also having the same feel... we belong to a very conservative indian origin family....though we have spent quite a alone time but never get into the momentum of such scene.....so what i want to know is how to start the intimacy of real action....advices please!!!

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  80. I have an interesting question. Do incest couples like brother and sister ever feel disgusted by other incest couples like father/daughter, mother/son, and vice versa?

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    1. I don't really think that they really judge other people's choices, since there's is also not accepted by society. But I do understand what your wondering, I've had sex with both my sisters growing up. And sex with my mother starting in my mid twenties and sex with my grandmother in my late twenties. I had sex with all the women in my family, and never had any problems with doing it. But I'm turned off by thinking about sex between father and son. But I've had oral sex with my grandma many times, which probably offends many people.

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    2. Anonymous, that's fascinating. Feel free to write me privately at Fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com

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