Casting Call

Here's another casting call. In communicating with the person who sent me this, it sounds like they are open to any "unconventional" or "forbidden" adult relationships. So, if you're not sure if they'd be interested in you, contact them to find out. This sounds like a friendly production, but as I always say, it is up to you and your loved ones whether or not you want to be involved with media. The decision to be out and so prominent has to be up to you and your partners. Visibility helps, but visibility comes with risks until protections against discrimination are in place.

If you decide to go for it, let us know how it goes (in so far as any confidentiality agreement allows).

Text from the casting call...

We are looking for people in loving and honest relationships that epitomize MODERN LOVE!

At first glance, would some consider your relationship unconventional; but underneath the surface, its undeniable? We are seeking partnerships to highlight in this groundbreaking new television series.

If you and your main squeeze are in an aspirational relationship that defies tradition but works for you, apply now!

Our simple and secure online form can be located here:
http://mactioncasting.formstack.com/forms/truelove
or text “truelove” to (424) 281 - 7073

Even if you just want more information, shoot me a text. There is zero commitment to participate!

MAC Worldwide Inc
7551 Sunset Blvd, #205
Los Angeles, CA 90046

Dear Boies and Olson: Please Keep Working For Equal Rights

The American Foundation for Equal Rights (AFER) has announced they will shut down, just like Freedom to Marry has announced. Have we achieved equal rights for all adults? No. We haven't even achieved full marriage equality. So as we did with Freedom to Marry, we encourage AFER to reconsider and to continue the work that needs to be done, because there is still so much progress to make. David Boies and Ted Olson can make more history.

Dear Evan Wolfson: Please Keep Freedom to Marry Going

Evan Wolfson and everyone at Freedom to Marry have done a lot of good in helping the US progress to getting the nationwide limited same-gender freedom to marry. That we applaud with great enthusiasm and joy. That we don't applaud is plans to shut down the organization. From a report at reason.com by Scott Shackford...

The group, founded in 2003 by civil rights lawyer Evan Wolfson to fight for same-sex marriage recognition, is marking the occasion by having a big party and then doing something unusual in non-profit activist circles: It's going away. The party was last week—Vice President Joe Biden and pop singer Carly Rae Jepsen (remember "Call Me, Maybe"?) joined the celebration. Now, as the Wall Street Journal explains, it's time to shut it all down:

The next morning, Mr. Wolfson said he and his "bleary-eyed" team met to plan the shutdown. Most of the 30 or so on staff will be gone by December, he said, while "a little rump of us" will remain to turn out the lights in February.

For many of the same reasons this blog will continue, Freedom to Marry should also continue. There is still so much progress to be made. Here are just a few reasons why Freedom to Marry can still do a lot of good:

1) There are still adults in the US who do not have the freedom to marry (or even simply be with) the person(s) they love, including many LGBT people. We need full marriage equality.

2) Other countries need help, including from the US, to move towards marriage equality.

3) Marriages will need protection in legislatures, administrations, and courts. Even though a decision by the US Supreme Court should settle the matter in the US, there are still going to be attacks, foot-dragging, noncompliance, and all sorts of ways marriages will be denied equal treatment. Many people can testify that having specific civil rights legislation in place has not ensured everyone has their rights; vigilance is needed.

4) Supreme Court decisions have been reversed before. A 5-4 decision isn't a safe as we'd like to believe. A new President will be elected in 2016. Will the new President make the right appointments to the Court and lower courts?

5) We need a federal Marriage Equality Amendment. Who better to lobby for it?

Let's keep going until every adult, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, or religion is free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage (and any of those without the others) with any and all consenting adults, without fear of prosecution, bullying, or discrimination.

What do ya say? Let's reward the staff for their success so far by keeping them employed in the work that's still ahead.

Anonymous Comment Claims Polyamorous Consanguinamory

Given that many find the subject matter to be controversial already, we try to keep this blog as Safe For Work as possible. Every once in a while, someone leaves a comment that I can't print exactly as left. Such was the case with Anonymous. I hope this Anonymous contacts me through email for further correspondence. Below, if you dare to read, is a polyamorous consanguinamorous relationship as described by Anonymous, who left the comments after this blog's most popular entry.



***PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS SUBMISSION BY ANONYMOUS HAS A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON SEXUAL INTERACTION***

Dr. Phil is Looking For Suckers

I've only caught a few moments here and there of Dr. Phil's show, so maybe I'm reading this wrong, but here is a casting call for his show...

Are You in a Polygamous Relationship?

Are you currently in a relationship with two or more people? Is one or more of your partners against being a part of a polygamous relationship? Is one or more of your partners ready to end the relationship if you don’t make a choice between them? Are you interested in starting a relationship with a second partner? Is your decision to be in a polygamous relationship ruining your relationship with your children or your family? Do you want to end you relationship with one or more of your partners?

Again, maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt the show will respect polymorous or polygamous relationships. The way this is written, it could attract, for example, a FMF triad, at least one member of which is having trouble with her/his parents, and thinking the show might attempt to help them with that. But I picture an episode that is all about trying to tell people involved in ethical nonmonogamy why they are wrong. The producers will probably be looking for polygynous relationships only, and their focus will probably be painting the women as victims of some arrogant or cheating man.

Maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to be in this case.


But let's keep in mind:



1. An episode is only going to have a maximum of 45 minutest of content. That ends up being a very short amount of time, especially if they also have someone on the stage with you who is a vocal opponent of nonmonogamy.

2. Dr. Phil and his staff will edit and control the narrative. If someone thinks they're going to go on there and expose how there are no good arguments for condemning all ethical nonmonogamy, any success is doing so won't make it to air. Do you really think they'll allow Dr. Phil to be portrayed as anything other than wise, correct, and in control?



3. The in-studio audience is likely to be overwhelmingly heterosexual cisgender monogamist women. There's nothing wrong with being a heterosexual cisgender monogamist woman, but the ones in-studio are likely to be hostile towards ethical nonmonogamy (at least by men), and they will not identify sympathetically with any guest on the show who wants nonmonogamy or to be with a polygynous man.

4. The target audience of the show is women who look to Dr. Phil for guidance.

Again, maybe I'm wrong about this. If you watch the show regularly, is there any indication that Dr. Phil would be anything but hostile towards ethical nonmonogamy? I think it would be great if the show had a FFF triad and some of their parents who were having a trough time accepting the relationship. But somehow I doubt that's going to happen.

Consanguinamory FAQ

I have a page here (see those tabs up at the top?) to answer frequently asked questions about consanguinamory and other forms of consensual incest and consanguineous sex.

Feel free to submit more questions to me (I take comments), link to the page, quote from the page, copy and paste... whatever... just as long as you tell people where you got it (link to me.)

These Are the People in Your Neighborhood

At debriefdaily.com, Kathleen Lewis tells us that she has two husbands, two wives, and it isn't kinky.

I was first introduced to such alternative relationships in college when a female friend of mine and I knowingly decided to share the same boyfriend. No, not a threesome, just going out with the same guy.

It was partially a matter of convenience, and partially the fact that we were close friends. We both liked him very much, didn’t want to fight over him, and he wasn’t anxious to choose between us.

Regardless of gender, if two people want to be with (dating, living with, or married to) the same person, shouldn't that be up to them if they're all consenting adults?

She goes on to write about how she married someone called Alan, and about a year and a half after getting married, they met Eric.

He and I were instantly attracted to each other and, as Alan had no objection, we began getting to know each other better.

Over time, I found myself falling in love with Eric. Alan certainly wasn’t blind to this, so we all got together to discuss it. This turned out to be one of the most important conversations of my life, and led to an increase in my family.

Alan and Eric let me make the sleeping arrangements, and I worked to make sure I spent time with both of them.

To all outward appearances we were a married couple with a male friend living with us.

There are people who fall apart when they hear about such relationships, but as long as this is what those involved wanted, what's the problem?

Fast forward to today, and our family is now composed of Alan, Eric, Leslie, Amber, and myself, plus our four children, and Amber is currently pregnant.

Eric and Leslie are legally married, and we’ve added a few rooms to the house. We have two family meetings a week, one of which is for adults only, both of which can get lively and loud. We’ve had our arguments over money, people monopolising other people’s time, dealing with children’s issues, and so forth like any other family – but we just have more voices in the discussion.

She writes a bit about finances, childcare, housekeeping, and cooking.

Our respective families are aware that Alan and I are married, that Eric and Leslie are married, and that Amber is living with us.

If they are suspicious of anything else, they’ve never mentioned it. Fascinating how people avoid asking uncomfortable questions.

Often, surrounding family that might not understand or be thrilled with a relationship or relationships prefers to leave things unsaid. They might get upset when someone actively and explicitly comes out, or they might realize that things will be better off with the relationship being openly acknowledged. While warm and loving support is best, as long as the families aren't hostile or destructive, that's a good thing. Everyone must decide for themselves whether or not to come out, how to come out, and to whom to come out. My personal opinion is that sometimes, even when you want to shout from the rooftops how much you love someone, the best option for the time being is to leave things unsaid if the surrounding families aren't asking the obvious questions.

She goes on to write about polygyny as depicted in Big Love and how that is very different from the family of which she's a member. As I frequently say, polyamorous people are diverse and polyamory can be found in many forms.

Debunking Common Myths About Polyamory

The profile of polyamory is rising, which is generally a good thing, but it does mean more people are going to have questions and some myths are more likely to be spread. Allegra addressed some "Common Myths About Polyamory" at the feroniaproject.org. These myths include "It's all about the sex" and...

Everyone who’s poly is kinky. Definitely not. There can often be a lot of crossover between people who are into different kinks and the poly community, and since a number of people who are ‘publicly’ kinky are often also poly, it can start to look that way. But there are a lot of poly people who are very happy with ‘vanilla’ sex, they just don’t want to limit that to one monogamous relationship.

Yes, there are poly people whose sex lives are quite vanilla and "ordinary," the only difference being that one evening might be spent with one person and another evening with the other person. It's one-on-one sex each time, and quite vanilla. But yes, for others, there is much overlap with, for example, BDSM circles, or there are evenings with threesomes or moresomes.

‘Anything with a pulse.’ Sometimes this gets tied into #1 – there’s an idea that people who are polyamorous are indiscriminate, and will sleep with anyone, anywhere, anytime. Poly people and non-poly people both experience desire for a variety of folks, it’s just that in a polyamorous relationship, there are a number of ways in which it’s possible to act on that desire. However, that doesn’t mean that poly people are dealing with a bottomless pool of need or want.

Bisexuals and pansexuals get this all of the time, too. Some bisexuals and pansexuals are monogamous and have very high/narrow standards, but some ignorant people think they'll have sex with anyone. Same goes for poly people, whatever their orientation. Click through to get the response to "It's just a nicer way for people to be able to cheat on their partner" and "Polyamorous relationships are all short-term / they just don't work," as well as some good sources of information. One myth not addressed is the idea that polyamory is tied to any specific religion, faith tradition, or spiritual philosophy. It just isn't so. As with monogamists, you will find polyamorists who are Atheists, Agnostics, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists, Deists, Theists of all sorts, Wiccans, Buddhists, Pantheists, Satanists, on and on and on it goes. We are your neighbors, your coworkers, and in your temples, synagogues, and churches. Poly people should not have to hide, whether they are filling out paperwork at the office or for their schoolchildren, whether they are going out for a night on the town or attending a child's dance recital. They should be free to marry, free to form whatever civil unions or domestic partnerships are available to others, and free to live together without a registered relationship.

Blog Recommendations

We're still basking in the glow of the historic U.S. Supreme Court ruling of 6/26.

There are so many people celebrating and getting married, there has been so much talk about changing remaining laws that discriminate against or fail to protect LGBT people, and there has been so much talk about the polyamorous freedom to marry and the consanguinamorous freedom to marry and moving towards full marriage equality that taking in all of the news has proved difficult.

A good place to keep up polyamory in the news is a blog called, appropriately enough Polyamory in the News. I highly recommend following that blog if you are polyamorous or an ally.

And, if you like this blog (Full Marriage Equality) you should definitely follow The Final Manifesto.

Stay tuned here as well, as we will continue to update and plan to have a full analysis soon of the Court decision and what's next. If you haven't don't so already, have a look around this blog for some of the pages and past postings you might not have seen before.

Stepsiblings, Siblings, and Fiction

If you've been paying attention to the fiction market, especially romance novels or erotica, it would be very difficult to miss the popularity of writings and fantasies of women with their stepbrothers.


For some, fantasy is just fantasy. They've never had a stepbrother or have no actual attraction to him, or if they did, wouldn't act on it. Others have acted on it.

What keeps many (not all) blood siblings from erotic, romantic, or even recreational interaction is something that has been described as the Westermarck Effect. This effect would usually apply to stepsiblings as well, provided they were raised together from a very early age, such as before the age of seven. Not everyone experiences the Westermarck Effect, however, and people who become stepsiblings or potential stepsiblings after the onset of puberty aren't likely to experience such an effect. They may or may not be attracted to each other just as they may or may not be attracted to any other person, but if there is any mutual attraction, they often have the added factors of proximity, privacy, convenience, etc. As for genetic siblings who weren't raised together, they are somewhat likely to experience an intense attraction (there's as much as a 50% chance that at least one of them will have a strong attraction, provided the genders and sexual orientations align.)


PLEASE NOTE THAT MANY OF THE LINKS BELOW MAY BE CONSIDERED "NOT SAFE FOR WORK."

Welcome Michael Brown Readers

Since the anti-equality conservative Christian columnist has linked here, I thought I would point out to you that he didn't bother to actually argue against full marriage equality other than making it clear her prefers to restrict marriage to monogamous heterosexual couples. But his wish is not an argument.

I invite you to learn something helpful.

Over there in the column on the right you can find ways to connect and to follow this blog.

There at the top of the page are tabs with drop-downs of some important pages, entries, and links.

There's a Welcome message and there's an About This Blog page, and you can read about the triad that originally inspired this blog.

There's a Glossary so that you can become familiar with terms frequently used here.

I explain why we need solidarity in supporting full marriage equality and I debunk all the arguments that you'll ever hear made against equality.

On the Case Studies page I feature interviews with people who have been denied their rights, so you can "meet" people who are, or have been, in consensual loving relationships who have are harmed by the lack of equality under the law.

Want to know more about polyamory or polygamy?

Want to know more about Genetic Sexual Attraction or consanguinamory (consensual incest)?

Maybe you or someone you know needs help, especially because of people like Brown?


Whether you're a family member or friend who is looking for more information, or a journalist, or are someone who is looking to help the cause, I hope you are helped by what is here.

This blog is a labor of love. There's no advertising and we don't accept monetary contributions. Want to help? Spread the word.

Please note that while we welcome serious disagreement, hateful or NSFW comments will not be published, or at least not published without some editing. Also, please note that every minute or bit of money you spend trying to prevent consenting adults from loving each other how they mutually agree is money and time you no longer have to fight child abuse. Please consider your priorities.

We Get Haters

We get comments and messages from lover and allies thankful for what we're doing here.

Every once in a while, we get some haters, too.


We accept comments disagreeing with equality, but we don't publish comments that are nothing but hate or have words not allowed on broadcast television or radio during most hours by the US Federal Communications Commission. The FCC doesn't care if those words are used here, but we want to keep the content and discourse here as Safe For Work as possible.

An anti-equality columnist linked here, and maybe it is just coincidence, but we got a string of hateful comments, probably from the same sad, angry person bitter that equality is winning, who spent quite a while reading through different posts here, apparently. Most of the comments didn't meet our standards as they were written, but I'll include some of them below, with certain offending words redacted.

Don't bother to keep reading this entry if you're not in the mood for such putrid ignorance. I find it encouraging that the anti-equality holdouts have no effective arguments. It tells me we're going to win sooner rather than later.