Thursday, December 20, 2012

Brothers and Sisters and Pregnancies

Every day, all over the world, regardless of socioeconomic status, siblings are sharing everything from from exploration and experimentation to lifelong spousal relationships. Whether we know it or not, and whether they know it or not, we all know people whose genetic parents are brother and sister. It is that common, and most children born to close relatives are healthy. So the two news items in this update should be no surprise. (By the way, siblings and anyone else involved in a consensual relationship with a close relative who wants to talk with others should sign up at Kindred Spirit forum. But be sure to immediately read and follow the rules, or you'll get kicked right off.)

Raymond Tan reports at the on a criminal case of interest to this blog...

The police here are anxious to determine whether two teenage boys and their sister had committed incest after the 13-year-old girl gave birth to a boy.
The police should only be interested if there was an assault involved. Are those official police uniforms in the picture?
They are now taking the 15-year-old and 17-year-old brothers for medical examination and DNA tests.
Does Boreo have laws against using a turkey baster to insert semen in a case like this? Some places don't. It is a valid defense.

The incident came to light after the children’s father found the girl pregnant in July.

He lodged a police report after she refused to reveal who fathered her baby.
The police might want to take the father in for testing, too, although, unless he's insane, reporting the matter makes it unlikely he did it.

When the police took the girl in, she tried to cover up, saying she had an intimate relationship with her boyfriend.

She gave birth in September, and the result of a DNA test showed that her boyfriend was not the biological father of her son.

The police took the girl in again, and this time, she broke down and confessed she had an intimate relationship with her two brothers.
Sex between a 13-year-old and a 17-year-old, and especially between a 13-year-old and a 15-year-old, should not be criminal unless there was some sort of intimidation, coercion, or force.

The girl’s family has given the infant boy away for adoption.
Look for a Genetic Sexual Attraction case in about 20 years.

Nothing in the article implies this was anything but consensual sex. Nothing in the article implies there is anything wrong with the child. Make sure the teens know about and use contraception. They are a little young to be having children. Otherwise, the authorities should stay out of it.

The second article comes from

In an incestrous relationship that has sent tongues wagging in Caledonia Farm, a brother and his cousin sister are staying together as husband and wife, bearing children!

What is a "cousin sister?" Is that someone born to, say, your father and your mother's sister? After some quick searching, it appears it could either mean an actual sister or "female cousin."
The sister, who identified herself as Milca Mazhindi (18), is currently six months pregnant of her cousin brother Munyaradzi Tarabuka's SECOND CHILD. The two have a one-year-old daughter together.
What is newsworthy about this?

Meanwhile, knives are out for the two to vacate the area they are staying and they have been given a one week ultimatum to leave following their 'taboo' branded marriage.
Some people are threatening violence because some people love each other?

She confirmed the incident and revealed that she is in love with her brother-cum-husband and that she is six months pregnant of him. Milca revealed that their relationship started in 2010 resulting in the birth of their one-year-old daughter.
Good for them. May they have a long and happy life together.
"We met in 2010 in Buhera and the relationship started and I fell pregnant and gave birth to our first daughter. My mother and all relatives were furious about the matter but my mum later left us to live. I was the first to leave Buhera following the incident and he was called and we started staying together."
Why can't they be left alone to be happy together? There have to things that are actual problems for the local authorities to be concerned with. Notice that again, there is nothing cited as wrong with their child and no reason given as to why anyone would try to stop their relationship.
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  1. Brothers and sisters having children together is more common than many people realize. I don't think we will ever know just how common, since obviously most people in such relationships keep the fact that they are related a secret. Still, when it does happen, as long as it is a happy and consensual relationship they should not be punished for it. I love my brother, and I love our daughter, but there are those out there that would condemn us for our happy relatonship. Since when is it wrong to be with the one you love, to be happy together?



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