There are people who would have everyone believe that there are no happy consanguinamorous relationships. That romance or eroticism with a close biological relative can only be a bad experience. Over at PFI [a site that doesn't exist anymore... go to Kindred Spirits for an existing place to talk], one discussion participant asked a question and answered it first…
If you could go back in time to where it all started and have the knowledge you do now about what lay ahead of you in this thing called incest, would you still go through with it ??
i've thought about it many times, and the answer i come up is yes i would, sure there are many tears and hard times you go through, but for me the good has always outweighed the bad, life is what you make of it, and we've made a very good life for ourselves....
The first response…
In spite of all the difficulties, I'd do it all the same way. This kind of love is so much deeper and comfortable and intense than anything I've experienced with other people. It's just that worth it, in my opinion.
The second response…
If I could go back in time, knowing what I now know, I would have gladly lost my virginity to uncle. We had the opportunity when I was 16 and I bottled it and I do regret that. I feel I have wasted too many years worrying about possible consequences and I'm kicking myself! I'm just enjoying making up for lost time with my darling. We can't meet up very often so every second is precious with him but we email every day and telephone every week. He truly makes my heart leap for joy.
The third response…
If I could go back to that time, knowing what I know now, I would not have been so concerned about the rest of the world. Not so worried about what they would think or say or do. I would have more trust in my love and my own feelings. We wasted so many years of our life, stuck, not being together and longing for each other. We were not following our hearts. Now, being without her would be the most horrible form of hell I can imagine.
The fourth response came from the third respondent’s partner…
Awww... I feel the same way. I wish I could go back to that moment knowing what I know now... I would be in your arms in a heartbeat you are my soulmate and I love you...
The fifth response…
Yep!
Another…
It's not always fun and games,but I've never regretted it.We've had a lot of good times together and I look forward to many,many more special memories.It's great to be with someone who I can experience that deep emotional connection with.I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Not one of the responses I saw expressed regret at having gotten involved in consanguinamory.
If you haven't done so already, be sure to read the interviews I have conducted here.
Every sexual or romantic relationship carries the risk of heartache. Consenting adults should not also be forced to endure prosecution nor persecution. They should he allowed their happiness. And if they do break up, they should be comforted, rather than lectured.
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Thanks for those interviews!
ReplyDeleteBut what are the odds of getting such information into the scientific literature? Sound interesting?
It would be nice to have a scientific "center for the study of consanguineous sex and consanguinamory," especially one that would study Genetic Sexual Attraction, but ideally it would have to be where the laws are most favorable. In the United States, that would be Rhode Island or New Jersey. Half-siblings may even marry in Sweden, so Sweden would be a great place. Also possibilities: India, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Russia.
ReplyDeleteOh god yes! I would love to start one of those, or to open up a branch of the Kinsey Institute for that. It's the most poorly researched aspect of human sexuality.
DeleteI have been in a consensual incestious relationship with my mother for over a decade. I have never experienced a stronger love for any other person in my life. We lived as a couple for nearly 3 years before we married. Our marriage is not recognized legally, but we felt it necessary to say our vows. After 2 years of marriage some family became suspecious of our relationship and we have lived apart ever since. We are both married now, but we met often to celebrate our special love for each other and continue to be with each other as often as possible. I wouldn't wish for my my worst enemy to endure the torture my mother and I go through everyday we are apart.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, thanks for writing. I am saddened that you have had the difficulties with your relationship that you've had. Please contact me privately at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com or http://www.facebook.com/fullmarriageequality
DeleteThis is a typical example-society, society is the barrier. Nobody can come out of this fence. There is nothing special one mother and son stay
Deletetogether and enjoy sex. But the society create problems in their life.
Well, I am responding after many years after this entry. I also felt saddened for these two not being able to be in a holy bond of marriage despite their being a mom and son. Keith, did you get the interview by any chance?
DeleteMaking Love with the woman who brought you to life,protecting, feeding and CREATING you is the ULTIMATE and PUREST religious act you can imagine 💋
DeleteI was in a sexual relationship with my sister for 6 years through high school and starting college. It ended when my mother walked in on us. she was outraged and told us we had to stop or she would cut ties with us. She also forced us to keep it a secret. We are also now both married (to other people) but meet up for time together when we can. I have never felt passion for a woman like i have for my beautiful sister, and it pains me that society forces us to be apart and to hide our relationship from the world and our family. In a modern world, with birth control, there is no need for these antiquated ideals.
DeleteI have never talked about this before - with anyone - and it feels truly incredible to share it. Even if it has to be anonymously.
Anonymous, I'm sorry your mother had the wrong reaction. I'm glad this blog is of some help. Please reach out to me private by emailing me at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com
DeleteI am with my brother and could not be happier. I do not regret a thing and I feel that getting together with him and raising a daughter together is the best thing that could have happened to me.
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My sister and I are and have been in a consensual, incestuous relationship for over 40 years and we have been living as husband and wife for 32 years. We have 3 children, 2 daughters and a son. We are full blooded brother and sister, not half or step. Our kids turned out just fine, no handicaps, no diseases or anything like that at all. Our neighbors, people we work with, the kids teachers and the kids friends and there parents no nothing about relationship. To them we are just the regular neighbor/parents next door raising a family.
DeleteAnonymous, thanks for sharing that and congratulations on your love. I'd very much like to communicate with you privately. If you haven't done so already, please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com
DeleteI agree with Keith. Please do. We need strong role models in this community, and y'all sound like amazing people.
DeleteWhen my step father ended up being diagnosed with stage 5 melanoma cancer, he had very little time before the disease took his life. It was during this time when I was 28 and my mother was 49 that we began a sexual relationship. For many years after my step father's death my mother and I ended up together in a committed monogamous relationship. We have never regretted crossing that line, in fact it is and always will be the most loving experience I have ever shared with any woman, even my own wife.
ReplyDeleteMy son and i have been together for over 40yrs, we have two wonderful very normal daughters together. We could not be happier or more in love and it only gets better and better. We feel no guilt or shame and know how lucky we are to have the wonderful life that is ours.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, that's great! Please write me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com as I'd like to hear more. Thanks for sharing.
DeleteAnonymous,thanks for sharing your experience.Can you share how it began and especially, who took the initiative?
DeleteHi.How did it begin? Was it die to some tragedy or it was just spontaneous? I have seen such couples but only one was spontaneous the 3 others were together after betrayals which brought them together.Good luck.
DeleteExcellent and evocative article!
ReplyDeleteHow sad that we live in a society where hypocrisy can be broadcast with such impunity; as is the case with the criminalization of loving, consensual adult relationships...even incestuous ones.
Though I've never been involved, I became intensely attracted to my oldest daughter (step daughterapprox 6 yrs ago.
I'd taught all three of my daughters what I could, especially critical thinking. I've been the only dedicated and objective parent in their lives. Of my daighters, my oldest was always very percocious and intelligent.
Due to both economic and personal difficulties, I had to move away from them whem they were young children. Yet, whether visiting several times per year, or a weekly phone call, I was as involved as possible. My oldest, being an extremely independent person was gone more often than not throughout much of her adolescence. The most striking example was the three year absense between her 17th and 20th birthdays. Upon seeing her again, I was confronted with a most peculiar feeling. Seeing my daughter's adult face on a woman's body. She's taller than I, blonde, curvy, yet thin and more articulate than ever.
I'd sleep on her mother's floor so I could spend time with my girls. One night while visiting, she came in from work, I was asleep and she decided to cuddle with me.
I awoke to spooing with her, I was fondling her breasts. I was disturbed at the thought, but after pondering it at lenght realized that I was intensely attracted to her.
The next day, while using her computer, happened to find some nude pics of her. I divulged having snooped and what I saw; she wasn't bothered.
I've moved in at her request with she and her husband. My SIL is a great guy and she wants this marriage to work. However, I've hinted at my instense attraction.
She's been more conpassionate, caring, open and supportive than every "woman" in my past; most of whom would abuse me if given the chance.
I'm very much in love with her and if her marriage failed, she were to decide to give an adult relationship a chance; I'd jump at it without hesitation.
But sadly; she's express discomfort at the thought of us being together; society's hypocritical "consensual love of any kind is okay!" notwithstanding.
I'd never do anything to hurt my daughter.
I love and want the best for her. However, I'm both bristled yet ashamed of intense feelings that I can't help...And not for a lack of trying.
Thnk you for offering an alternative perspective, one which is so rarely and openly discussed.
Incesteous relationships can be verry healthy and can help in tieghting
ReplyDeletethe family bonding .
Incest within the family is just great.
ReplyDeleteUnless you are indulging in it,you can't really experience the great love,bond that are involved.If you are one of those lucky ones,great news.
DeleteMy sister and I were separated at quite a young age, around 10 or 11. We kept in contact with each other and I slowly started developing romantic feelings for her. Thankfully, she reciprocated. Things couldn't be better between us, though we do wish we were geographically closer. We've also been considering telling our parents about it, but, well, I don't think they'd take it too well, haha.
ReplyDeleteSome things for some people are better left unsaid. If you haven't done so already, send me an email at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com
DeleteI know mu son has had a strong sexual interest in me for quite a while now but lately I find its all I think about and I've even found.myself.having fantasies. I'm really confused by my feelings and.there is so much stigma attached to this subject I just don't know what to do
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, if you haven't done so already, please write me privately at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com
DeleteDear Anonymous,what is the status of your mutual interest in Incest?Have you progressed?Who took the initiative?Don't worry about the dogma.You just enjoy without letting anyone know.It seems destined to happen since you both are interested.It won't harm the society or you two.So why bother?Thanks,
DeleteAnonymous Lady, I have no idea of the status of your relationship with your son today but assuming that you both are interested,why should there be any doubt,confision or guilt?Incest is safer compared with affairs with outsiders where you can be abused,extorted,video recorded to be blackmailed and turned into a slave.Go right ahead and enjoy.
DeleteThank you for this outlet. I have lived with guilt and shame for years by having deep feelings for a family member. It is such a relief to know I'm not alone and not a freak.
ReplyDeleteYou are not alone, and you're not a freak. At least, you aren't a freak about this. Feel free to contact me at fullmarriageequality at yahoo dot com. ...also, thanks for the kind words.
DeleteI dont think anyone should ever feel like a freak. Because you arent. I think there are more people out there but they just dont admit it.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone thinks that they are a freak. Then im the biggest freak of all.
ReplyDeleteHere is the thing. Im happy for all these great relationships out there. But just remember that its okay to have ups and downs. Life cant always be perfect. I mean can you imagine being happy non stop. It takes a lot to be happy. What about being in love. Love is intense. I cant imagine being in love all day everyday my whole life. That would kill me. We are all humans and when we have arguements or disagreements it helps us learn and grow. So dont ever worry if you have problems once in awhile. Its no big whoop. The sweet times are so much sweeter when you experience the lows.
ReplyDeleteWhen you are able to go through the good and the b ad times together it will bring you even closer together. Its more meaningful i think.
ReplyDeleteI do not partake in incestuous relationships, but I have been intruiged and have thought about partaking numerous times. It might partially be that I am willing to feel and accept sexual attraction to anyone of any gender identity. A label I have to define me, not as a whole, but as a piece of me, is pansexual, meaning I will not reject a partner because of their gender identity. I have been attracted to different members of my family, including my intermediate family, save my cousin. I am not sure that these feelings are legitimate, but I am still confused. I admit that these feelings are probably because of my teenage libido, yet I am still confused. I know 100% that my family would be disgraced by me if I chose to partake in said relationships. I have also been conflicted with gender identities, acceptance of and willingness to partake in polyamorous relationships, and I am concerned this would only add to mental ailments for the people involved, including myself.
ReplyDeleteMinul oli ka väga hea suhe emaga mitu aastat.Unistasin noorelt juba emaga seksimist,kuna nägin ukse vahelt kuidas isa minu ema põrutas ja siis läks mul jube kõvaks.Isa on nüüd uue naise juures ning mina sain ema omale.Alguses oli meil emaga suguelu iga päev,aga nüüd ainult nädala vahetusel.Siis oleme võtnud veini ,ning oleme terve päeva voodis vahekorras.Saan varsti 24.aastaseks ja ema on 51.aastane,ning meie elul pole häda midagi.
ReplyDeleteAnd could you translate this into English?
DeleteI was involved in an incestuous relationship with my mother from age 13 until she died when I was aged 40 . It was a 100% loving , caring and mutually beneficial relationship that has had absolutely NO negative consequences on myself whatsoever .
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, this blog is about consenting adults being together, not adults getting with minors. However, I have some questions for you we can keep private, please write me at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com
DeleteDespite you were a minor,I am happy to note that there was only live and no abuse or adverse consewuences.And now she is gone,sadly,with you no longer a minor-everything is immaterial.I am sorry for your loss.
DeleteDo you mind sharing with us how it started?
DeleteTO DOMINICK: I couldn’t publish your comment, but I wrote a reply here: https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2020/01/you-might-be-able-to-resume-where-you.html
ReplyDeleteI have been very interested in the consanguinamory issue for some years now but recently lost touch with its progress. I had not read this blog for months and it is a kind of surprise to read these current entries.
ReplyDeleteI am astonished really by some of these comments..that people had relationships for so long. with children even, who are all perfectly well, grown up nicely and into lives of their own.
I imagine it wont be many more years before consanguinamory will be a legal fact of life..and leaders like Pullman feted made saints.
way to. I cannot explain my interest and support for consanguinamory. have never been involved in such all my life and up until some years ago I was disgusted by the thought of incest..far less its actuality.
then my perspective changed just like that..or whatever it was I have not detected it yet.
interesting.
Hello s o me and my half sister are deeply in loud and have been for two years. It has been rough but the good out ways the bad. I can't imagine life with our her and we've both tried.i am 13 years older. 20 and 34. She feels the same. I 've never said anything to know one until now
ReplyDeleteI was involved secretly with a cousin during my teen years. She lived in another state and would come to visit from out of state in the summer and we'd have a nice time together. Things happened and she stopped coming to visit. We went on with our lives, married other people, she had kids, etc. She got divorced then later, the same happened to me. She got my number from another sibling and called me to offer support and we started talking again regularly. She came to visit and it was just like old times. Since covid started, we haven't been seeing each other, but we still talk. What hurts the most is I later found out we could have legally married since we are 3rd cousins once removed since in all U.S. states, there are no restrictions on marriage beyond 2nd cousins. Even with it being legal, I know our families would have ostracized us completely. We don't know what we're going to do, but we do like spending time together and have some real feelings for each other. If covid ever ends, we'll have to figure out what, if anything we're going to do with this.
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