tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31525841854877068902024-03-18T20:56:22.001-07:00Full Marriage EqualityAdvocating for the right of consenting adults to share and enjoy love, sex, residence, and marriage without limits on the gender, number, or relation of participants. Full marriage equality is a basic human right.Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.comBlogger2999125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-92151604795066901892024-03-17T18:53:00.000-07:002024-03-17T18:53:05.900-07:00Is a Woman Unable to Consent to Marry Her Sibling?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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[Bumping this up because it is still revelant.] I take the idea of consenting adults seriously. An adult, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, or religion should be free to share love, <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/10/is-there-any-sexuality-you-dont-support.html" target="_blank">sex</a>, kink, residence, and <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">marriage</a> (or any other legal union offered) with any and all consenting adults.<br />
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This does not mean I think any given person is a good match for any other person, or that they are treating each other right. It just means whether or not they have a relationship and what they do together should be <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/08/genetic-sexual-attraction-incest-and.html" target="_blank">up to them</a>, not anyone else.<br />
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Our laws are inconsistent about this. A 22-year-old woman living below the poverty level can legally consent to sign a prenuptial agreement and legally marry a 60-year-old male billionaire. She can have sex with the President of the United States, who obviously has much more power than her. The law in many places allows her to marry a complete stranger. Also, in most places, she can legally live with and consent to sex with a man who has what amounts to a harem, or she can consent to group sex with several weightlifting champions she’s never met before, or an older man who’s been her next-door neighbor since she was born and babysat her throughout her childhood, and is now living on death row as a convicted murderer. <i>That’s </i>all legal. However, in many places she’s still barred from legally marrying another 22-year-old woman, and in even more places, she is still barred from having consensual sex with, let alone marrying a full or half sibling, <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/genetic-sexual-attraction.html" target="_blank">even if they weren’t raised together</a>. I have yet to hear <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">a reason justifying such discrimination that withstands scrutiny</a>.<br />
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Recently some <a href="http://www.twitter.com/FullMEquality" target="_blank">tweets</a> were directed to me by a thoughtful person questioning brother-sister marriage, and those tweets deserve responses longer than 140 characters, so I’m putting my response here.<br />
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<i>as in statutory rape, how do you ensure the protection of incest victims current and future? Incest is predatory. It's rape.</i></blockquote>
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<i>'consent' is the key word you've used. Prove consent in incest.</i></blockquote>
We “prove consent” in consanguinamorous relationships the same way we do so in any other relationship or encounter. Rape/assault should never be equated with consensual sex. <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/against-abuse.html" target="_blank">They are two very different things</a>.<br />
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<i>some legal situations s/a stat. rape and incest recognize that consent is not always able to be given. Coercion/manipulation</i></blockquote>
In saying that sibling should be free to share sex and marriage, that in no way erases laws against assault. As with complete strangers, consent is at the center of sex. Without consent, it is assault.<br />
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<i>But you're more likely to be viewing the product of a long term manipulation/coercion situation.</i></blockquote>
<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/12/frequently-asked-question-how-common-is.html" target="_blank">More likely?</a> How do we know that? What about identical twins, or siblings who are about the same age and first met as adults? That some people are repulsed by the idea of marrying or having sex with their own sibling does not mean others can’t desire sex or marriage with their siblings, and freely consent to it. What we tend to read in academic studies or hear about in the news or with groups that take reports about abuse are problematic situations, where assault is taking place or the lovers have had mental health issues or run into trouble with the law. Siblings who are enjoying consanguinamory because they have a consensual sexual relationship, whether they share a residence or not, are usually going to fly under the radar. Very few are out of the closet.<br />
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Removing laws and stigmas against brother-sister sex (and brother-brother sex and sister-sister sex) will actually make it easier for abuse to be reported, because victims and witnesses will be more likely to work with law enforcement if consensual sex is not subject to criminal prosecution. I draw an analogy with assault by strangers. Unmarried sex used to be criminalized, and victims were often blamed for having engaged in such sex or putting themselves in a position where that would be a possibility. Now, ideally, law enforcement recognizes that (for example) a woman should be free to have casual sex if that is what she wants, and having casual sex with a man one night does not mean the same man or another man should be allowed to assault her on another night.<br />
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<i>depth of intimacy and full emotional support is had in families with no sex required.</i></blockquote>
This is true, and it is the case with any adult relationships. People can have intimacy and full emotional support without ever having sex.<br />
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<i>Sibling sex is unnecessary 4 bonding.</i></blockquote>
Whether or not it is necessary, the question is really “Is there a good reason to deny the fundamental right to marry to people because they are genetic siblings?” <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">I say no</a>. I have <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">interviewed many siblings</a> who have beautiful, lasting, healthy relationships. Often with brother-sister relationships, the sister reports that she initiated. The people in these relationships say it has made their bond much more deep and intimate and that nothing else compares. To try to use law to force them to cease lovemaking with each other is cruelty. To deny them the freedom to marry is unfair. That they are already family does not negate a need for marriage equality, especially if they want to share next-of-kin status with each other and prevent another sibling or a parent from interfering in their relationship or lives.<br />
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If we take the concepts of consenting adults and equality seriously, we can’t keep arbitrary discrimination such as the ban on consanguineous marriage.<br />
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I know of no better place to discuss consanguinamory than the <a href="http://kindred.forumup.com/" target="_blank">Kindred Spirits forum</a>. If you join that free forum, be sure to immediately read and follow the rules, or they will kick you right off.Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-10831952057482130862024-03-16T09:10:00.000-07:002024-03-16T09:10:21.126-07:00You Did the Taboo - Now What?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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So you've had sex* with your <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">close relative or family member</a>, whether a cousin, brother, sister, mom, dad, son, daughter, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, grandparent, or grandchild. Or maybe more than one of those. "What have I done?" you might have asked, or "Now what?" This can be so whether these are your blood relatives, adoptive relatives, or <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2013/05/taking-steps.html" target="_blank">step relations</a>.<br />
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There may or may not be feelings of elation, confusion, awkwardness, guilt, shame, and... a strong desire to do it again.<br />
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<b>1) You're <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/12/frequently-asked-question-how-common-is.html" target="_blank">not alone</a></b>. I guarantee you know someone else who has had similar experiences. Most people keep quiet about them, but you'd be surprised who in your life has had consanguineous sexual encounters. Some of <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">these situations</a> might be like yours.<br />
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<b>2) What happened could have been a normal, natural reaction to the circumstances</b>. People have been having consanguineous sex for as long as there have been people. Some people are consanguinamorous in their orientation. Some people are brought together by <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/genetic-sexual-attraction.html" target="_blank">reunion GSA</a>. But even if neither of those apply to you, what could be unnatural or abnormal about people who find each other attractive or are curious sharing affection or recreation, especially if they love each other?<br />
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<b>3) <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2019/03/is-it-ok.html" target="_blank">There isn't necessarily anything wrong</a> with you, what happened, or with continuing. </b>If this was by mutual consent or agreement then <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">it isn't wrong</a>. It might be wrong if it violated an existing agreement with someone else that you intend to pretend is still intact (cheating). But absent cheating, any guilt or shame you feel is likely from internalization of external prejudices and sex-negative attitudes. Simply put, someone else told you it is wrong. But what would be wrong about loving each other this way? Affection, meaning <i>consensual</i> affection, isn't a bad thing. Incest encounters that involve abuse or incestuous assault are bad. Not consanguinamorous affection.<br />
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<b>4) Participants need to communicate.</b> Where relationships are examined and discussed, you'll repeatedly see people stress the need for communication. This is even more apparent in spaces where <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">consensual nonmonogamy or ethical nonomonogamy</a> (such as polyamory) is discussed. It holds true for in a relationship involving consanguinamory, too. (And speaking of ethical nonmonogamy, you might want to <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2016/10/tips-for-switching-to-polyamory.html" target="_blank">consider it</a>, depending on <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-intersection-of-polyamory-and.html" target="_blank">the circumstances</a>.)<br />
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If you and your lover(s) didn't discuss your feelings, boundaries, expectations, concerns, and desires at length before, you should definitely have a good talk. Reassure them that you wanted this and enjoyed it and want to do it again (if those things are true).<br />
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As with any romantic or sexual relationship, you'll need to figure out the rules and the boundaries together. Will this be <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2020/04/family-with-benefits.html" target="_blank">family-with-benefits</a>, or a spousal-style relationship, or something on the wide spectrum between? Will this be an open or closed relationship, and what is meant by "open?" Will you push off these decisions until things settle down a bit? There are no wrong answers to these questions, only what works for those of you involved.<br />
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<b>5) A honeymoon phase may happen.</b> It can be normal that your and/or your new partner(s) want to do it all of the time, now that you have done it. And it can be normal for that to ease up a bit later. As with any other relationship, there could be times when you are more affectionate than others.<br />
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<b>6) Envy is a thing.</b> If someone else is aware of the additional bond to your relationship, they might be envious, even if they don't want to admit that's what it is. <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/family-and-friends.html" target="_blank">This might help them</a>.<br />
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<b>7) Haters are going to hate.</b> You may need to <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2013/07/how-consanguineous-lovers-can-avoid.html" target="_blank">protect yourself and each other</a> from the controlling and hateful. <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2018/07/laws-vary-regarding-relationships.html" target="_blank">Laws vary in some places</a>, and there may still be <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/11/frequently-asked-question-why-is-incest.html" target="_blank">unjust laws</a> where you are that criminalize your love, which emboldens the haters. Even more widespread than criminalization is discrimination in marriage law. Because of these things, consanguinamorous relationships can have more difficulties than others. The good news is that the overwhelming majority of consanguineous lovers are <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/09/living-consanguinamorously-keeping.html" target="_blank">never outed</a> to the wrong people. But <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/04/how-to-pull-off-living-with-your.html" target="_blank">some special planning might be in order</a>.<br />
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<b>8) Reaching out can help.</b> Reaching out to connect with supportive, understanding, experienced people can <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/need-help.html" target="_blank">help</a>. You <b><i>are not alone</i></b>. Anyone is welcome to <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2018/07/this-is-how-you-contact-keith.html" target="_blank">contact Keith</a> and also to check out <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-consanguinamorous-and-allies-have.html" target="_blank">Kindred Spirits</a>.<br />
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<b>You are welcome to comment below, including anonymously.</b><br />
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*Please note that this is about mutual affection or experimentation, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/against-abuse.html" target="_blank">not abuse</a>.<br />
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If you haven't done it yet, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html" target="_blank">this might help</a>.<br />
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If you're still young, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/12/consanguinamorous-youth.html" target="_blank">this might help</a>.<br />
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So, whether you've slept with your sister or made out with your son, or whichever relative with whom you're getting frisky, hopefully this post has helped you.Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-47358321208553875132024-03-09T20:41:00.000-08:002024-03-09T20:41:45.756-08:00How Common Are Swinging Parties?<div class="story_title_container" style="background-color: white; color: #333333;">
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">Quora continues be a place where you can ask and answer a wonderfully wide variety of questions. <br /><br />You can </span><a href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="background-color: transparent;" target="_blank">find me there</a><span style="background-color: transparent;">. Someone else who is active there is author/educator </span><a action_mousedown="UserLinkClickthrough" class="user" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Franklin-Veaux" id="__w2_wuJ7OuBj57_name_link" style="background: transparent; color: #333333;">Franklin Veaux</a><span style="background-color: transparent;">.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/How-common-are-swinging-parties/answer/Franklin-Veaux" target="_blank">Here is his answer</a> to the question "How Common Are Swinging Parties?"<span class="ui_qtext_rendered_qtext" style="tab-size: 4;"><i><br /></i></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span class="ui_qtext_rendered_qtext" style="tab-size: 4;"><i>Very. Very very very. There are a </i>lot<i> of swingers in the world.</i></span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span class="ui_qtext_rendered_qtext" style="tab-size: 4;"><i>If you’re near any reasonably-sized Western town, there’s probably a swing party or three happening somewhere in town on any given weekend, not including all the private sex parties and play parties happening in private homes.</i></span></span> </blockquote>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><i>If you’re in a larger town or small city, I can pretty much guarantee there are swinger events happening near you, on average, at least four or five days a week. If you’re in a major city, I’ll bet money a sex party is taking place within five miles of you on any given weekend</i>.</span></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: inherit;">This idea that most people are cisgender heterosexual lifelong monogamists (or serial monogamists) who fit neatly into traditional gender roles and marry one person of the "opposite sex" who is the same race as them and not "too closely" related and they have vanilla sex in their bedroom 2-3 times per week and rarely anywhere else is something that just doesn't match up with reality.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">There are people who are voluntarily celibate and/or chaste, whether they are asexual or not.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">There are people not far from where you are right now who are transgender or genderfluid.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">There are people not far from where you are right now who...</span><br />
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<li>Are in a relationship/marriage with someone of a different race.</li>
<li>Are in same-sex monogamous or monogamish relationships, including marriage.</li>
<li>Are <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">ethically nonmonogamous</a>, whether they are swingers or in open relationships or are polyamorous or somehow engaged in, and/or prone to, some forms of consensual, honest nonmonogamy.</li>
<li>Are in, or oriented towards, romantic and/or erotic relationships <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">with close relatives</a>.</li>
<li>Engage in what are considered kinks or fetishes that only involve consensual interactions with others.</li>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">You don't even realize it about many of them, especially if you aren't looking for it. So many of these people lead otherwise "regular" or "traditional" lives.<br /><br />Our laws, institutions, workplaces, policies, and programs must take these things into account. Affirming relationship rights, including <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">full marriage equality</a>, will help with that.</span>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-60474540530748920672024-03-07T12:34:00.000-08:002024-03-07T12:34:00.128-08:00Support the Rights of All Women<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
<a href="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o02-Mo_Jyik/TmZpsZrWJwI/AAAAAAAAADA/rDHljUXO5RkHojregZkOMAtTR1krN3hnwCPcB/s1600/female_symbol.png" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" height="320" src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o02-Mo_Jyik/TmZpsZrWJwI/AAAAAAAAADA/rDHljUXO5RkHojregZkOMAtTR1krN3hnwCPcB/s320/female_symbol.png" width="207" /></a></div>March 8 is <a href="https://www.internationalwomensday.com/" target="_blank">International Women's Day</a>.<br />
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All women should be free to be themselves, to have their basic human and civil rights, whether they are cisgender, transgender, or noncomforming or fluid; whether they are asexual, heterosexual, lesbian, bisexual, polysexual, or pansexual; whether they are aromantic, celibate, monogamous, or nonmonogamous. Whether their relationships are exogamous, endogamous, or consanguineous. Whether they are questioning or they are certain. Whether they are raising children or have raised children or not. Whether they are married or partnered or single.<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;">A woman, regardless of her birth, sexual orientation, relationship orientation, race, or religion, should be free to share love, sex, kink, residence, and marriage (and any of those without the others) with ANY and ALL consenting adults, without fear of prosecution, bullying, shaming, or discrimination.</span><br />
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(Same goes for any other adults, too.)Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-78916595350054755442024-03-06T13:34:00.000-08:002024-03-06T13:34:08.072-08:00Secretly and Happily Married<div style="text-align: left;"><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyXasvUzfNSgM6s58Q4Svk8BGbxV2-Fbq9Xheqe3Y7vz9-B7TptEtZTd2WTeWPEa7nof3a1r7nkN_AnBCY6QFBgSEZ3iwIAvbwrPr8BZuiENkR2Kqz78KQV7dmLIerjzsgQv8vxa7p_IvLBa7v8thnfpj_wI9dinMTiTwHEve6zRcFcx_tasz4JLNSD_4/s200/image.png" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="200" data-original-width="112" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyXasvUzfNSgM6s58Q4Svk8BGbxV2-Fbq9Xheqe3Y7vz9-B7TptEtZTd2WTeWPEa7nof3a1r7nkN_AnBCY6QFBgSEZ3iwIAvbwrPr8BZuiENkR2Kqz78KQV7dmLIerjzsgQv8vxa7p_IvLBa7v8thnfpj_wI9dinMTiTwHEve6zRcFcx_tasz4JLNSD_4/s1600/image.png" width="112" /></a></div><span style="font-family: inherit;">W</span><span style="font-family: inherit;">e have another exclusive interview to bring you. </span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span>People in </span><a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">consanguinamorous</a><span> relationships are everywhere, though consanguinamorists tend to be closeted. Fortunately, some are willing to be interviewed for this blog. As a result, </span><i>Full Marriage Equality</i><span> has </span><span>fe<span>atured</span> scores of</span><span> </span><a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">exclusive interviews</a><span> </span><span>with </span>lovers <span>denied the freedom to marry and have that marriage treated equally under the la</span><span>w. Most can’t even be out of the closet or they’ll face prosecution under absurd incest laws, which, instead of focusing on abuse, also target consensual relationships.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span><span><br /></span><span><span>The<span> man interviewed</span> below<span> </span><span><span><span><span><span>should be <span>f<span>ree </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span>to </span>legall<span>y </span>marry his spouse, or simply be<span> together without having to hide, yet they can’t. Prejudice can be deadly.</span><span> </span>They are consenting adults; why should they have been denied their rights? In much of the world, they could be criminally <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/11/frequently-asked-question-why-is-incest.html" target="_blank">prosecuted</a> for loving each other this way, and might be persecuted severely in addition.</div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span><br /></span><span><span>Read the interview below and see for yourself what he has<span> to say about the love they share. </span></span></span>You may think this relationship is interesting, or it might make you uncomfortable, or you might find it ideal<span>,</span> even highly erotic, but whatever your reaction, should lovers like these be denied equal access to marriage or any other rights simply because they love each other this way?<br /><br />Also please note that someone you love, respect, and admire could be in a similar relationship right now. Should they be attacked and denied rights because of the "incest" label? <br /><br />Note: This is a "David" I have not interviewed before.<br /><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><span face="-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-size-adjust: auto;">*****</span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FULL MARRIAGE EQUALITY: <i>Describe yourself.</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><br /></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">David: My name is David. I'm a divorced father in my forties to a very lovely daughter. I have a home-based business as a contractor for which I oversee computer systems such as phones, fire suppression, air conditioning, lighting, etc., all via the Internet. There are certain companies that, despite having a qualified staff on site, sometimes need me to quietly look in when no one is looking. That's the only way I can say it without getting into trouble. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I'm in good shape and healthy as my job has me sitting lots. I keep in shape by walking lots and hiking in the mountains when possible. I love cooking and I love a good cup of tea. What's interesting is how my daughter has followed in my footsteps. She is a very confident woman, working towards her RN. When she was in high school, she started volunteering at our local hospital, helping the unit clerks, working at the information booth, cleaning and just being a kind voice and smile to patients and their families. I am so proud of her and her drive. She does have a touch of OCD, a strong focus. This has helped her countless times, and helped me as well.</span></span></p><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span><a name='more'></a></span><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><br /></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;">FME: <i>Are you married or have you ever been legally and/or ceremonially married?</i></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;">We are married to each other, but no one else was involved, for obvious reasons. We avoided restrictions by not letting anyone else know. What is in our hearts is all that matters to us now. </span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">There was a small ceremony just between the two of us. We had gone hiking for four days to a spot very private and quiet; we've been there before. I tried to be as romantic as possible. When she was facing away from me, I dropped to one knee and waited for her to turn around. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">When she did, she found me there holding a small box with a necklace holding two hearts entwined. I told her how much she meant to me, how beautiful she was, how happy she always makes me and would she please do me the honor of becoming my wife. For a minute, she couldn't move, but then the there was the happiness in her face and a laughing "Yes!" I didn't have anything prepared, but said that I would love, honor, cherish, and protect her to the end of my days. I promised to go to war for her if needed. She sort of repeated what I said while giggling in excitement. Her joy is very infectious to me. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>How would you describe your genders? How would you describe your sexual orientation... are you heterosexual, bisexual, or…?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">We are both heterosexual and have no interests in anyone else. I've dated once or twice, but both times ended with unnecessary drama. She has never had an interest in anyone else either.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>You currently live with...?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">It's just the two of us in a small-to-mid-sized house. It's perfect for us both.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>You are in a sexual relationship with your biological daughter?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">We have had a committed, beautiful, and very intimate sexual relationship with each other for years now.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>What was your childhood like? What was family life like? Were alternative lifestyles/sex discussed in your family, and if so, how? Can you describe your sexual awakening?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I had a happy childhood. Mom and Dad were both stable people, both worked very hard and always made time for myself and my older sister. There was always laughter around the house and table as I remember. I vaguely remember Dad taking me out for supper so that Mom and my sister could have some girl time. I didn't know at that time, but Mom was teaching my sis about her body, her periods, boys, things usually shared just between girls. A couple of years later, Fad and I had the talk as well, although by then I had discovered, through a friend, a copy of <i>Penthouse</i> magazine. That would have been my sexual awakening. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">My first partner would eventually become my fist wife, the mother of our daughter. We’re divorced. I won't go into details. It was a tough time and I had sole custody of my girl, and at that point I was clueless as to being a father to a girl.<br /><br /></span></span><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;">There are a couple of moments that will stay with me forever and I believe they contributed to us becoming far more than just father and daughter. These moments all involved the building of trust. </span><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;">When she got her first period, she was very embarrassed about this. I did the only thing I could. I called my sister and asked her to help out. Soon my daughter and sister were giggling away on the phone in my daughter’s room. I have no idea what was discussed, but I soon had a shopping list for various feminine products to buy. Through this, my daughter was watching me and my showing her how I respected her clearly had an effect on her. When puberty started, our family doctor suggested getting her started on the pill, not as a birth control but as a way to regulate her periods and to control acne. it worked. Again she was watching me treat her as a young lady, being the good and almost, dare I say it, "cool dad". As she started to develop, she approached me about going shopping for bras and underwear. I suggested that yes, I would be happy to go but she should take one of her friends as well. Suggesting that friend was very helpful. </span><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>How did sexual affection become a part of the relationship between you?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;">I would like to state that in no way have I groomed or forced her. This was a very gradual process for us both. </span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">She grew into a beautiful a woman. She and I were sitting on the couch, watching TV. Her hand was holding mine. This is where it started down the physical road. Wandering hands. Careful exploration of each other. Very intimate, very careful. Still spontaneous but certainly showing an interest in each other. I mentioned before how she can get very focused. This was happening now. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Our inhibitions were dropping. She asked me one evening if we could "go all the way". I suggested that we think very hard about such a decision. I was freaking out a bit at this thought. We had become a pair of room mates in the house, almost friends with benefits at this point. I suggested we take an evening a week or so away and that would give us time to think about what could possibly or possibly not happen. Two weeks later on a Friday, the date where the decision would happen, she gave me a hug and kiss and whispered in my ear how she was looking forward to that night. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Can you describe your feelings at the time?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I knew this was going to happen. I was nervous and excited. I was concerned about getting found out. I set up candles in my bedroom to help set a romantic mood. I prepared some food for supper. I didn't get much work done that day. I was clearly preoccupied. We shared supper but didn't talk much. We were both thinking way too much about this. I was actually scared. So was she. She went to her room to get changed and I went to mine and lit all the candles. She was nervous, as was I as we got into bed together. I felt like a teenager. We were very quiet as we proceeded. It was truly lovely though. This was her first time. That was beyond words for both of us. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">When we finished, I felt total elation, total joy, and at the same time very afraid that I had taken from her something so pure. I was terrified that this moment would be when her birth control wouldn't work. We shared a shower then I asked her to spend the night together. I didn't get much sleep but she slept so soundly and quiet. I actually watched her sleep.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">The next morning, we both woke up together, slowly, and didn't say much while lying in bed. I asked her if I had hurt her. Were there any regrets? Should we stop? Do I have to apologize and never speak of this again? We had a good talk in whispers and both came to the conclusion that what we had done was beautiful, she did not feel violated in any way and I had not hurt her. She claimed that it was very romantic and relaxed and that she felt safe. We made love again. It was perfect.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Before this had you ever thought this would be possible or enjoyable; did you have any opinion one way or the other about close relatives or family members being together?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I truly had no idea that this could have happened between us. I did not expect this to even happen to us. We were just father and daughter living together, I was doing my best as a father. I was overwhelmed at how enjoyable it was to be with her physically, despite the age difference. She has always agreed with me on this point.<br /><br />I don't believe that back then I ever had an opinion on close family encounters. Now my opinions have greatly changed. I do not see any issues at all of family love, so long as it is consensual, and age appropriate, it is a beautiful form of expression, and not just physically. Honestly, I never had thoughts about my sister or mother, although I do view them both as beautiful women.<br /><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>How do you describe the lovemaking now?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">The lovemaking has been very natural, very erotic, and incredibly beautiful. It's always going to be taboo, but we don't view that in a negative or dark way. It is very much the best sex we have ever experienced. We are very, very open with each other. No secrets at all and we talk about everything. I appreciate this more and more, because all I wanted was that trust that all girls would hope to have regarding their fathers. I know that my daughter trusts me implicitly, and I trust her equally so. This is what made it easy for her to ask me to give her a baby, and for me to ask her for her hand in marriage. We understand the issues and concerns involved in such events happening and we have approached these with great care and discretion.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Describe your relationship now. This is a marriage?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">We married in secret, as I said, so we are husband and wife. It’s a secret between us alone. In other words, a discreet union with beautiful, and what we feel are very healthy, results so far. We don't make love every day. We find once or twice a week is what works for us both. Although, occasionally, we have spent entire days in bed, celebrating such joy again and again. We are still father and daughter to the world, but in our quiet home, it is so much more. To the unknowing world, they see me as the stay at home dad with a good job who keeps the house in order and a daughter who is excelling at her studies at university. We are definitely lovers. We feel that we are inseparable at this point, having been married and our immediate plans include having a baby together.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Do you literally sleep together, or what are the sleeping arrangements? </i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">After our relationship became intimate, we would sleep in the same bed. We had it arranged that we would spend the night together only after sex. It wasn't nightly or such. She still has her room just in case but we noticed that after a year or so, it was just easier and enjoyable for her to share my bed, now our bed. Since marriage, we have shared our bed now fully.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Does anyone in your life know the full, true nature of your relationship and how did they find out? How have they reacted? What kind of steps, if any, have you had to take to keep your privacy?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">She went for her yearly check up with our family doctor, someone we have known since my daughter was born. She came home really scared, saying that the doctor asked her some very personal questions about whether or not I was forcing myself on her or abusing her. We both went back for a meeting just between the three of us. We both confessed that yes, we had become more than dad and daughter, but there was in no way any forcing or coercion. My daughter confessed that we had discussed having a baby together. I was a very concerned in my request that the authorities not get involved and what we were doing was beautiful and harmed no one. </span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">We were astonished when the doctor said that this does happen more than anyone will admit, and that pregnancies between family members do happen. The discussion turned to her warning us of such relationships, especially getting found out, and the dangers of pregnancies between family. The doctor was direct in saying that she couldn't stop us, but hopefully she could minimize and potential problems going forward. She was willing to assist us with the pregnancy, including tests for both of us regarding any genetic issues or family histories involving cancer, or any hereditary issues. My ex wife's family has a history with heart attacks, but my daughter seems to be healthy and if she keeps that there should be very little chance of that affecting her. That was a relief. As we ended the meeting, I asked her how she knew. Her reply was "I've seen the way you both look at each other. It's unusual, but you're in love."</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Having to hide the full nature of your relationship from some people can be a disadvantage. Can you describe how that has been?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><br /></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">We've been very careful and we always talk about that when necessary. She keeps her room despite us sleeping together. We will remind ourselves as we go out for whatever that there will be no groping each other or very outward signs of affection. We were a little self conscious about something as innocent as holding hands, but we quickly realized that no one noticed, or seemed to care. What helps is that we don't have a lot of guests at our house, with the exception of her fellow students coming over to study together. I turn into the "cool dad," provide food and beverages, and just leave them alone to work. I've had a couple of friends over to watch TV and she looked at us in mock disgust and said "Too much testosterone. I'm outta here!" It was funny, and also disarming. No one suspects.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>What do you want to say to people who disapprove of your relationship, or disapprove of anyone having this kind of relationship? What's your reply to those who would say that this is a father preying on, and abusing his daughter, and that she couldn’t truly consent?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I know what I've done is illegal and is viewed with disdain, so it's very difficult to try and convince anyone that what we have is a beautiful love that hurts no one. I've read of people getting assaulted and the hatred is very offensive and vile. It's difficult so it's easier to not respond, and to not engage anyone who shares a negative viewpoint.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">But what always gets missed is the opportunity to witness the love that grows between two people who are family. I think in some way if people looked at the entire picture they would see a couple sharing a good life together.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>If you could get legally married, and that included protections against discrimination, harassment, etc., would you? Or is this a different kind of relationship than that?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;"><br />To be honest, probably not. I remember decades ago when coming out as gay or lesbian would tear families apart. I understand that it's accepted now, but with something like incest and the stigma it carries would most likely do a lot of damage to our family. There would be many problems associated with this form of coming out, especially if there are children or pregnancies involved.</span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>What advice do you have for someone who may be experiencing these feelings for a relative or family member, especially a daughter or father?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I would suggest that they become very aware of the other person involved. Look for small signs like a lingering touch, longer hugs, and definitely listen for words that could be suggestive.<br /><br />There was a trust pattern slowly growing here. Our first encounter was when I noticed that she had stopped wearing her bathrobe and would be coming out of her room in just a t-shirt and panties. She would lean on me as I sat at the table, just a morning hug. After a short while, I responded by gently touching the back of her thigh, just a touch of affection but she would have noticed that my hand lingered and was a little higher up her thigh, but not a grope.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Make sure that both sides listen to each other. This is a very taboo topic, and an open heart and mind is necessary.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">We started talking when I said with a grin that we were turning into room mates, and I mentioned that I noticed her change in morning attire. I said it was nice to see her like that, all moppy-headed and such.<br /><br />Non-threatening and non-combative statements are essential. Make sure that when you actually start the discussion, it's from a place of love and respect.<br /><br />We started the discussion while watching TV. She was wearing an old shirt of mine and the buttons were undone so I was able to see her breasts. I mentioned that to her and thanked her for trusting me. She responded with how I would get hard and she noticed that despite being clothed.<br /><br />Slow, slow steps are needed. Always make sure the other is comfortable. It must be a consensual encounter.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>What advice do you have for family members and friends who think or know that relatives they know are having these feelings for each other? </i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;">If they have a doubt or concern, please keep it to yourself, because what if you're wrong? If it's an imbalance, like in age for example, try and see any signs of distress. If you see that, approach them carefully. Their answer will dictate your next actions. When our doctor asked my daughter, she came to me and we both went to the doctor so she could see there was no abuse or such.<br /><br />If you actually witness a moment of intimacy, consider again both sides. Are they enjoying themselves? Then please keep that as a secret to yourself. They have hopefully walked through a lot of heaviness together and the result has been worth it.<br /><br />If they tell you that they are seeing each other, they are entrusting you to keep that as a secret. Please support them fully, offer your help if they need it, and please never judge. Remember, such relationships take time to develop and many conversations have taken place between the both of them.</span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Do you consider yourself consanguinamorous in orientation, or could you be fulfilled in a relationship with someone who isn’t a close relative?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14;">I feel more inclined to say that I am fulfilled with my daughter as my life partner, and I can say that she feels the same way with me. We both do not feel the need to seek anyone else at this time. The fact that we're discussing and planning to bring a child into this world should be enough.</span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Any plans for the future?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">The immdiate plans are is for her to finish school. Barring an "accident," we will hopefully try for a baby not too long after she graduates. We want to keep going on this path we have been on, hiking, walking, school, work, just being a couple without showing that we are a couple. We have a long term plan of going to Europe and trying an extended stay there, but having a baby might make that difficult. We have talked about getting pregnant, then travelling in order to have our baby in a different country. We definitely want to travel, baby or not. And for myself, I want to continue to fall deeper in love with her. She is literally my everything.</span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">FME: <i>Anything else to add?</i></span></span></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><br /></p><p dir="auto" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="color: #0c0c14;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Thank you for letting me tell you and anyone who reads this. I hope that in my words anyone can read of the growing love we have for each other, and not just focus on one aspect that certain people will fixate on in a negative sense. It's far larger that that.</span></span></p><div><br /></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;">*****</span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span>Clearly, these are</span><span> consenting adults, and yet they can't even exer<span>cise their basic human rights<span><span> as things are now.</span></span></span> They are happy, yet they are denied fundamental rights. They can't even be open about their love without risking harassment or much worse.</span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span><br /></span><span>Why should they be denied their rights? <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">There’s no good reason</a>. We need to recognize that all adults should be free to be with any and all consenting adults as they mutually consent, and part of doing that is adopting relationship rights for all, including <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">full marriage equality</a> sooner rather than later. People are being hurt because of a denial of their basic human rights to love each other freely.</span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span><br /></span><span><span><a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">You can read other interviews I have done here</a>. As y<span>ou'll see, there are people <span>from all walks of life, around the world, who are in consang<span>uina<span>morous relationships.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span><br /></span><span>If you are in a relationship like this and are looking for help or others you can talk with, <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/need-help.html" target="_blank">read this</a>.</span></span></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />If you <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2014/09/tell-your-story.html" target="_blank">want to be interviewed about your "forbidden" relationship</a>, or that of someone you know, connect with me by checking under the "Get Connected" tab there at the top of the page<span> or em<span>ailing me at full<span>marriageequality at protonmail<span> dot com or <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2018/07/this-is-how-you-contact-keith.html" target="_blank">see here</a>.</span></span></span></span></span></div><p style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0); color: #0c0c14; margin: 0px; min-height: 29.7px; text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />If you know someone who is in a relationship like this, </span><a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/family-and-friends.html" style="font-family: inherit;" target="_blank">please read this</a><span style="font-family: inherit;">.</span><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></p><div style="caret-color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><br />Thank you, David,</span> <span style="font-family: inherit;">for telling us about your <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2016/12/intergenerational-relationships-arent.html" target="_blank">intergenerational</a>, </span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">consanguinamorous</a> relationships. We wish you and your wife well!</span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-71823869917889960222024-03-05T12:37:00.000-08:002024-03-05T12:37:04.748-08:00National Sons Day - March 4If you have a son, it's time to think about the good things he's brought into your life and what you can do to show your support and appreciation.<br /><br />A special shout out to all the parents who support their sons who are LGBTQ+, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank"></a><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj_ZboQ9Gmyj4noBN3GmJ-VUgH2MaqMJO2hbUPpuhQ0Qeb4ojmvKDna-i8ihspa_qQaK9IzGuls4m-VcwtWowNRspWr83p21-xFxgf703pOxvRjfB0y80GE0pnjXHEdIqDa5QAF2vTTI-a9E007THBqmCYI3khmOWwoWxaNwGGdHGMjbW_l7GWZb09X=s300" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="282" data-original-width="300" height="188" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj_ZboQ9Gmyj4noBN3GmJ-VUgH2MaqMJO2hbUPpuhQ0Qeb4ojmvKDna-i8ihspa_qQaK9IzGuls4m-VcwtWowNRspWr83p21-xFxgf703pOxvRjfB0y80GE0pnjXHEdIqDa5QAF2vTTI-a9E007THBqmCYI3khmOWwoWxaNwGGdHGMjbW_l7GWZb09X=w200-h188" width="200" /></a></div>ethically <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">nonmonogamous</a>, and/or <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">consanguinamorous</a>. <br /><br />Speaking of consanguinamory, a <i>very</i> special shout out to all of you who are consanguinamorous with a son. I'm sure you can think of a great way to celebrate the day.<br /><br />If you are considering adding an additional bond with your son, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2020/07/for-parents-considering-consanguinamory.html" target="_blank">this might help</a>.<br /><br />You can let us know if you make a point of marking this day, either by commenting below (you can do so anonymously) or by <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2018/07/this-is-how-you-contact-keith.html" target="_blank">contacting Keith</a>. Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-30813394809002955282024-03-02T17:37:00.000-08:002024-03-02T17:37:28.874-08:00Why Attempt to Suppress Affection?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnMnGQbNWP-DjpwmsT8-7ka2msfg3Qpj93IINxNwWUJ1V4wxYHtcjhEJ6XrZe4paX04sJnf3L4oFiKLw3j4lyWSrKMoS6afa-vL4Byby4MkjvxPg0T0KUORTeIGjTYZUv76IHPxSaFUsZE0fhET8NxDupWRrPHxkAvg6EKd1X3m_zJpYRxJqkJyg3l/s300/heart.svg.med.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="282" data-original-width="300" height="188" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhnMnGQbNWP-DjpwmsT8-7ka2msfg3Qpj93IINxNwWUJ1V4wxYHtcjhEJ6XrZe4paX04sJnf3L4oFiKLw3j4lyWSrKMoS6afa-vL4Byby4MkjvxPg0T0KUORTeIGjTYZUv76IHPxSaFUsZE0fhET8NxDupWRrPHxkAvg6EKd1X3m_zJpYRxJqkJyg3l/w200-h188/heart.svg.med.png" width="200" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;">Why would anyone waste time, energy, and other resources attempting to suppress affection or recreation between mutually consenting people?</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Do you have a personal dislike of some forms of sex, or certain people? So what? Why do you even feel a need to tell people sharing love or play that you disapprove, let alone try to censor or criminalize them?</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Who are they harming? Who are they endangering?</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Life is short. Don’t waste yours trying to stop other people from being affectionate or playful with each other.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Don’t fight against equality; that’s a threat to freedom.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Rather, show solidarity and support the rights of all. You’ll find it makes you a better person overall. Love is better than hate.</div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-53909307410659878162024-02-29T10:34:00.000-08:002024-02-29T10:34:04.115-08:00Zero Discrimination Day - March 1<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh_2EsbktOJ12LpNaUoG0UVcp2hRARA2Xki-ORbI7BykbCJpeus92IDWwHLUw_S-xn35zQQQhDMwqgEoHZ_OZGCPZ5ox_DjAJIF1698yqb4lvaL06pg16ytoknBU69wWyl5IEsDv8R-dduvrf9W1dU5vXLRdT5W9W3Fxj8doZOLLCegdqWb6vkVa1xG=s300" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="300" data-original-width="300" height="200" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh_2EsbktOJ12LpNaUoG0UVcp2hRARA2Xki-ORbI7BykbCJpeus92IDWwHLUw_S-xn35zQQQhDMwqgEoHZ_OZGCPZ5ox_DjAJIF1698yqb4lvaL06pg16ytoknBU69wWyl5IEsDv8R-dduvrf9W1dU5vXLRdT5W9W3Fxj8doZOLLCegdqWb6vkVa1xG=w200-h200" width="200" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;">Celebrated by UNAIDS, Zero Discrimination Day is observed to to stand against discrimination and inequality in health care, including fighting stigma regarding HIV/AIDS.<br /><br />When people seek health care, they shouldn't be discriminated against because of any disease they have, or for being LGBTQ+, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">nonmonogamous</a>, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">consanguinamorous</a>, kinky, or anything else about their gender, sexuality, or relationships.<br /><br />Reject prejudice, stigma, and unjust discrimination.<br /><br />Serve those who need care.</div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-60041584343618903112024-02-26T16:53:00.000-08:002024-02-26T16:53:47.588-08:00Metamour Day - February 28<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjafHFsQS9a9klKLL3NIaiVXDd6hPRuC4HYcIsp416LD0jdCP68OtQLrbhCkFWdCBqIuLngcr4GPCJt1v-BDH3tIx_2cXErloRfR4UFzQrMV8hqFAnBy4bR39_HR5uOofo8eBbTR-NEOH9Nl0diWmUmSlPNQumYkmj9bg1LC8KYnpX9G8JqtH9lDbIn=s299" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="285" data-original-width="299" height="191" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjafHFsQS9a9klKLL3NIaiVXDd6hPRuC4HYcIsp416LD0jdCP68OtQLrbhCkFWdCBqIuLngcr4GPCJt1v-BDH3tIx_2cXErloRfR4UFzQrMV8hqFAnBy4bR39_HR5uOofo8eBbTR-NEOH9Nl0diWmUmSlPNQumYkmj9bg1LC8KYnpX9G8JqtH9lDbIn=w200-h191" width="200" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;">Wednesday, February 28, is Metamour Day.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">It’s a day to celebrate the relationships people have with their metamours. Metamours are a partner’s other partners, or other significant others (OSOs). “Metamour” is a commonly used term in <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">polyamory</a> and sometimes in the wider ethical/consensual/disclosed nonmonogamy community.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Having a positive relationship with a metamour benefits everyone. Some metamours have little contact with each other. Others are best friends.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Do you have a metamour? Are you cordial? Friendly? Best of friends? If you're polyamorous and people in your life are metamours to each other through you, tell us about how that is going. Let us know by commenting below.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://poly-coach.com/polyamory-support/things-to-consider-when-meeting-your-metamour/" target="_blank">Here are some things to consider when meeting a metamour</a>. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div> Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-27488936714690727342024-02-22T14:05:00.000-08:002024-02-22T14:05:05.615-08:00Is It OK? (Mother and Daughter)<div>I’m continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors. Most of my appeals have been granted, restoring those specific answers.</div><div><div><br /></div><div>If you don’t follow me on Quora already, please do so and upvote my answers, if you’re so inclined. </div><div><br /></div><div>This specific answer wasn’t restored. But <a href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-okay-to-have-sex-with-both-a-mother-and-a-daughter-at-the-same-time/" target="_blank">the question</a> is still there, without another answer.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div><div style="text-align: left;">***** </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-okay-to-have-sex-with-both-a-mother-and-a-daughter-at-the-same-time/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/Is-it-okay-to-have-sex-with-both-a-mother-and-a-daughter-at-the-same-time/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /></span></p><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-okay-to-have-sex-with-both-a-mother-and-a-daughter-at-the-same-time" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: repeat;">Is it okay to have sex with both a mother and a daughter at the same time?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk">advocate for relationship rights for all consenting adults.</span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-okay-to-have-sex-with-both-a-mother-and-a-daughter-at-the-same-time/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">10mo</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: inherit; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">It isn’t just okay, it can be WONDERFUL.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">Of course, that’s having sex, not assaulting anyone. And NOT cheating, meaning you’re not breaking rules you have with either.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><span>Would the LAW say it is OK? That depends. Laws vary from place to place, but in some US states, there are still unconstitutional laws criminalizing any sexual affection between a daughter and her mother. But they can both be sexual with YOU, even at the same time.</span></span></span></p></span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers. Someone asked a question. I gave a sincere and careful answer.</span></div></div></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">If you want to contact me privately, I can be reached on the Wire messaging service at fullmarriageequality or via email at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com</span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">more </div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-50467541577647733202024-02-21T16:43:00.000-08:002024-02-21T16:43:37.142-08:00Is Polyamory Just Another Word For Swinging or an Open Relationship?<div style="text-align: center;">
<span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>NO.</b></span></div>
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These three terms are <b><i>not</i></b> synonymous. <br />
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All three ARE forms of <b><a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">ethical nonmonogamy</a></b> or <b>consensual nonmonogamy </b>or<b> disclosed nonmonogamy.</b><br />
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<b><u>Swinging</u></b> can involve unattached individuals, but usually involves established couples (or even triads, quads, etc.) in group encounters with others, in which the focus is on casual sex. Sure, the people involved can be friends, even close and longtime friends, they might even love each other, but what's going on is that people get together at sex parties.<br />
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<b>Open relationships</b>, including open marriages, are relationships in which there is an existing, established bond, but those in the relationship have agreed that they are open to new partners, whether they are short term or long term partners.<br />
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There is also <b><i>swapping</i></b>, in which people in a relationship trade partners with people in another relationship, mostly for sex. This is usually done with just two or three couples, as opposed to at a party.<br />
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<b><u>Polyamory </u></b>means having a romantic, dating, courting, nesting, or spousal relationship with more than one person, with the agreement of all. It takes on many, many forms. It could be a triad who live as spouses to each other. It could involve a married couple who also have girlfriends/boyfriends they see individually or together. It could be four people who are dating each other on an ongoing basis. There are countless forms of polyamory. Some people are polyamorous as an orientation.<br />
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Some polyamorous relationships are open. Some are closed. Some polyamorous people engage in swapping and/or swinging, some don't.<br />
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Many people who are in open relationships or who swing or swap don't consider themselves polyamorous, especially if they're only looking for casual sex when they get with people outside of their relationships.<br />
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There are people in open relationships who are not swingers and do not engage in swapping. There are people who will do swapping but don't consider themselves swingers. There are swingers who do not identify their relationship as open, especially if the only time and place they will get sexual with others is at a swingers club/party.<br />
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So, the terms mean different things. And there are other forms of ethical nonmonogamy.<br />
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<span style="font-size: x-large;">"Yeah, but aren't these all just different words for cheating?"</span><br />
<span style="font-size: x-large;"><br /></span>
<span style="font-size: x-large;"><b>NO!</b></span><br />
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Cheating is <i>breaking the rules</i>.<br />
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Ethical or consensual nonmonogamy means that the people involved have <b><i>agreements</i></b> ("rules") that allow for what they are doing.<br />
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To be sure, there are people who are involved in these forms of ethical/consensual nonmonogamy who are sometimes involved in cheating, but that is because they broke the rules.<br />
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It is up to the people involved in a relationship what the terms of their relationship will be, and if and when those terms will change. As people go through life, their desires and needs can change and they might revisit the terms to modify them.<br />
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We need to ensure that adults, regardless of gender, can share love, sex, kink, residence, <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">and marriage</a> (and any of those things without the others) with any and all consenting adults, without fear of prosecution, bullying, or discrimination. There is <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">no good reason</a> our laws shouldn't protect these rights, and institutions and service providers need to except and account for the fact that some people are nonmonogamous, and not assume everyone is monogamous or wants monogamy, and certainly not try to force people to be monogamous.Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-67402940771702381562024-02-17T17:41:00.000-08:002024-02-17T17:41:29.707-08:00Consulting An Attorney If You Can't Legally Marry<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXDsbGgtZ4uw3zdKaKwDInbhOVzoLf_pkwjb9--WyOhTOrgZSBak4QWRqM_C9NX1qQRYL4b0zKeFME3D_kdZDzZ-Y0XwXHZAYkNuOmZKVxOR4MHOnhWSHndAHb8_eruwe15hd4raiDu58rTxmrRJ6rBUZzzV0G38nzaFdzW7oK3xJ9kyKfbWj-8g6T/s299/scales-of-justice-red-md.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="258" data-original-width="299" height="173" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXDsbGgtZ4uw3zdKaKwDInbhOVzoLf_pkwjb9--WyOhTOrgZSBak4QWRqM_C9NX1qQRYL4b0zKeFME3D_kdZDzZ-Y0XwXHZAYkNuOmZKVxOR4MHOnhWSHndAHb8_eruwe15hd4raiDu58rTxmrRJ6rBUZzzV0G38nzaFdzW7oK3xJ9kyKfbWj-8g6T/w200-h173/scales-of-justice-red-md.png" width="200" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;">If we had relationship rights for all, including <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">full marriage equality</a>, so many of the troubles facing so many people would go away.<br /><br />But we don't have that yet.<br /><br />So people in certain relationships face discrimination ranging from employment and housing discrimination, to denial of the freedom to marry, to imprisonment.<br /><br />In the US, the people who help you with matters of law are called lawyers or attorneys. Other terms might be used in other countries.<br /><br />In the US, you still can't be legally married to more than one person at the same time, and you can't be married to someone who is "too closely" related to you. (How close is "too close" <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2018/07/laws-vary-regarding-relationships.html" target="_blank">varies by state</a>.)<br /><br />If you are in such a relationship, you can still have certain things similar to being legally married, such as:<br /><ul style="text-align: left;"><li>shared financial accounts and investments</li><li>shared purchases, ownerships, and sales</li><li>sharing a residence</li><li>beneficiary or reciprocal beneficiary status</li><li>hospital visitation</li><li>being able to make decisions for one another should one of you become unable to communicate or dementia, memory loss, or mental illness necessitates someone else make decisions on your behalf</li></ul>Without being legally married and without having paperwork that says otherwise, partners are not treated as next of kin or survivors; a biological or legal relative, even if estranged, indifferent or hostile will usually be considered next of kin, be able to make medical decisions, exclude partners from hospital visits, and claim ownership of the person's estate when they pass.<br /><br />It might be worth it for you and your partner(s) to consult a family law and/or estate planning attorney. A good attorney can come up with the paperwork that will allow you to be responsible for each other, before and above anyone else.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><br /></div><div>DO NOT tell the attorney, no matter how kind and trustworthy, you’re lovers. They don’t need to know that and it can only cause problems. Rather, explain what it is you want, which might involve joint ownership or control of something financial, “power of attorney,” "medical power of attorney," reciprocal beneficiaries, and whatever else. Explain you want to be able to make decisions for each other and visit each other, before/above anyone else. You want to be considered primary next of kin to each other, you want custody of your minor children to go to each other in the event one of you passes - if that's what you want.</div><div><br /></div><div>Over the years, some partners have used adoption, with one partner legally adopting their adult partner(s).<br /><br />What options work best for you and your partner(s) can be determined if you hire a good lawyer. Lawyers aren't cheap, but depending on what you want, their help can be worth it.</div><div><br /></div><div>Keep in mind that in situations in which <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/genetic-sexual-attraction.html" target="_blank">genetic relatives were raised apart</a>, they are often not considered family for things like inheritance, but are still treated like family when it comes to prosecuting them for being together. That is just one example of why they might need the help of an attorney and yet shouldn't tell the attorney if they are lovers.</div></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-10622021016286838162024-02-15T16:14:00.000-08:002024-02-15T16:14:28.891-08:00Asked and Answered <div style="text-align: left;">I’m continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors. Most of my appeals have been granted, restoring those specific answers.</div><div><div><br /></div><div>If you don’t follow me on Quora already, please do so and upvote my answers, if you’re so inclined.</div><div><br /></div><div>*****</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat; font-size: 15px;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/Has-anybody-had-sex-with-both-mom-and-daughter-at-same-time/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/Has-anybody-had-sex-with-both-mom-and-daughter-at-same-time/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /></span></span></p><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Has-anybody-had-sex-with-both-mom-and-daughter-at-same-time" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: repeat;">Has anybody had sex with both mom and daughter at same time?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk">advocate for relationship rights for all consenting adults.</span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Has-anybody-had-sex-with-both-mom-and-daughter-at-same-time/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">3y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat; font-size: 15px;"></span></p><div class="q-text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">I have had sex with a mom and daughter at the same time. The mother didn’t raise the daughter, who found her after becoming an adult. They experienced reunion Genetic Sexual Attraction for each other. They had plenty of sex with each other without me, but lucky me, they started to include me sometimes. There’s a lot more to this but I’m sticking to what directly answers the question.</span></p></span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers. Someone asked a question. I gave a sincere and careful answer.</span></div></div></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">If you want to contact me privately, I can be reached on the Wire messaging service at fullmarriageequality or via email at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com</span></div></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-47892382146494077222024-02-12T20:19:00.000-08:002024-02-12T20:19:42.636-08:00When Someone You Love Wants To Love You More<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You may have come to this blog
because you <i>think</i> or <i>know</i> someone in your family or closely
related to you is <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-do-i-feel-this-way.html" target="_blank">attracted to you, or has a crush on you, or wants to get romantic or sexual with you</a>. You may have had a mix of reactions to this,
whether you've been shocked, surprised,
confused, amused, bemused, worried, flattered, aroused, creeped out, repulsed,
nervous, or some combination of these. So what do you do when a relative has a crush or very strong attraction to you?<br />
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<br />
<b>These Feelings Are Normal and More Common Than You Think</b><br />
<br />
These feelings are <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/12/frequently-asked-question-how-common-is.html" target="_blank">not so rare</a>. There’s <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2014/06/consanguinamory-is-not-sick.html" target="_blank">not necessarily any reason</a> to get them
to a mental health professional because they have these feelings. They are especially common when you were <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/genetic-sexual-attraction.html" target="_blank">not raised by one another or with each other</a>, but even if you were raised together or by one another, it's not unheard of.<br />
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<a href="https://www.blogger.com/null" name="more"></a><span style="font-size: small;"><br />
<b>These Feelings Aren't Wrong</b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Their</i> feelings are their own. It is OK for them to have their
feelings, and they certainly aren't alone in having such feelings.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">And your feelings are <i>your</i>
own.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"><i>Their</i> feelings do not require <i>you</i> to
act one way or another, but doing nothing at all is probably the worst way to
react.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">If you're feeling <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-do-i-feel-this-way.html" target="_blank">the same as they are</a>, or want to seriously consider adding this bond to your relationship,
you might be better off going to <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/08/genetic-sexual-attraction-incest-and.html" target="_blank">this entry here</a>.<br />
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But if you're somewhat unsure, ambivalent, wavering, or all the way over to the
side of being fairly certain you want no part of such a situation, the rest of
his entry is for you.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">
<br />
<b>Initial Reaction</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">Unless you've been <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-do-i-feel-this-way.html" target="_blank">hoping for this moment</a>, you should probably take some time to think it over, even if your
initial internal reaction was "No!" If you've already reacted
negatively to them, there's still a chance to smooth things over.</span></span><br />
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<br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"><b>Are You Sure It is How They
Feel?</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"><br />
As we like to say around here, <i>thinking</i> and <i>knowing</i> are two
different things.<br />
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It’s pretty clear how they feel if they explicitly say that they want to get it
on, or they made an unmistakable physical pass at you, or you’ve overheard them
masturbating and saying your name, or you’ve discovered that they keep images
of you that are sexy or explicit or are very suggestive, or the history/files
on their smart phone, tablet, or computer reveals they’ve been thinking about
how to get with you.<br />
<br />
If you've got a vagina and you find that your underwear (especially used) keeps
getting moved or disappears and reappears in their room, that’s a pretty strong
signal on their part; there is only doubt if they are the same size as you, in
which case there is a small chance they wanted to wear it (washed). If you find
that your underwear/lingerie or toys keep getting moved or used, that’s a
strong indicator. It is also something I advise against people doing,
just FYI. <br /><br />If they've left this very essay for you to find, then it should be clear.<br /><br />If you have such clarity, You can skip down to the next section.<br />
<br />
But if it hasn’t been that clear<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">,</b> there's a
chance they're not making a play or inviting you to. They may not even want to
act even if they do have feelings for you in that way.</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">
If you only <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">think</i>
they might be interested, it could be a misunderstanding or maybe you are
misreading them (or even <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection" target="_blank">projecting</a> your <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-do-i-feel-this-way.html" target="_blank">own latent feelings</a>). <br />
<br />
Flirting or behaviors that would look like flirting to the average observer
ignorant of your relation might be an indication, but those things aren't
definitive if not explicit or blunt.<br />
<br />
Maybe you've found out that they like (or even create) porn or erotica with
incestuous themes. This <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/09/let-dad-have-his-fantasies.html" target="_blank">does not necessarily mean they are attracted to you</a> and
want to have sex with you and are hoping to have sex with you. It's a very
popular genre. Some people enjoy such material or even have a fetish for it
without actually wanting to be with their own family members. Porn is usually
very different from reality, after all. On the other hand, it <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">can</i> be a sign of
interest.<br />
<br />
Hints, clues, or signs likely to indicate they're interested:</span></span><br />
<ul>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">
They look for reasons to be around you, especially alone, without an apparent
agenda.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They suggest or arrange for you two to do things that romantic couples might
do, even if it they try to make it seem like an accident (such as getting the
two of you in a hotel room with just one bed).</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They have increased physical contact with you.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You catch them staring at you or giving you lingering looks.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They’ve started or increased discussions about sex with you, especially
consanguineous sex and relationships, and especially if it involves “joking”
about <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/consensual-incest-faq.html" target="_blank">consanguinamory</a> or something happening between the two of you.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They express jealousy or envy towards your (potential) dates or lovers.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">The people they date or find most attractive have similarities to you in
appearance, age, mannerisms, etc. They may even (try to) date your friends.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They’ve “accidentally,” or have had excuses to, come in to where you are
changing clothes or showering/bathing or have tried to call you in when they
are changing clothes or showering/bathing when it hasn’t been typical for you
to be in those circumstances together.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They are dressing up more impressively than usual or
in more revealing clothing around you for no apparent reason.</span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They’ve started to invite you to tell them how they look or if something
they’re wearing is appropriate.</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">They mention having a sexual dream that included you. Even if they play it off
as funny or strange, they could be trying to see how you react.</span></span><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></li>
</ul>
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">
None of these by themselves mean it is certain they are sexually attracted to
you, but the more that you recognize them doing, the more likely they are.<br />
<br />
If you're <i>still</i>
unsure and you don't want to come right out and ask them because it could be
embarrassing, you can give them a chance to speak plainly about their feelings
for you by talking about the subject in general. If you talk about it in a way
that indicates to them that it is safe for them to talk with you about it and
they can tell you anything, then they’ll reveal if they do feel that way for you. Some ways of doing
this would be to say that <i>you</i> had a
dream that included them, or that you’d consider it flattering if someone in
the family thought you were attractive. You can say things like, "Is there anything on your mind you're not telling me? You can tell me anything, and I mean <i>anything</i>." Or something like, "You know, I've been thinking about how rare it can be for people to find a very strong, special connection to each other, and it is shame that some people think there is anything wrong with consenting adults loving each other in any way they want." There are many things you could say that will give them the confidence to be vulnerable with you.<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><br />
<br />
</b>
<br />
<b>You're Positive They Want to Jump Your Bones</b><br />
<br />
No matter what your feelings are, you need to make it clear what boundaries, if
any, you need to be in place.<br />
<br />
Again, if you think you want to go for it, whether you’ve been <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-do-i-feel-this-way.html" target="_blank">hoping</a> they feel
that way or you’re curious or want to explore or experiment, <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/08/genetic-sexual-attraction-incest-and.html" target="_blank">go ahead and see this</a>.<br />
<br />
If you need limits on <i>what</i> is going to happen, <i>when</i>, <i>where</i>, etc., then you need
to discuss that with them, as you should for any romantic or sexual
relationship you’d have with anyone. Maybe your limits include cuddling, maybe kissing,
maybe simply being naked around each other, maybe masturbating in front of each
other, or touching each other or various forms of sexual contact. Maybe you
want to <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/cautious-consanguinamory.html" target="_blank">move more slowly</a> than you have with others (although <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">many people in these situations</a> end up moving faster than they have with others, and often
regret that they didn’t get together sooner.)<br />
<br />
If you think there is <b><i>no way</i></b> you'd want to get any more physically affectionate
or romantic than you already do with them, do you know why? Consider if you’re
internalizing a <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">senseless prejudice</a> against something that could be very enjoyable
for both or all of you and bring you closer together. It might be a good idea
to tell the other person you need some time to think about things. Sometimes,
people who are initially shocked or have a negative reaction, after thinking it
over, realize they have a mutual interest. The thought that they want you might
have caught you off-guard or shocked you. Take some time of think about it.
This is someone who loves you and knows you. It had to take some courage on
their part to be vulnerable with you if they volunteered to you how they feel.<br />
<br />
While there is <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html" target="_blank">no good reason</a> to have laws or taboos against such
relationships, you <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/08/genetic-sexual-attraction-incest-and.html" target="_blank">may have a reason</a> to not have such a relationship, at least
with this person. After all, each person needs to decide for themselves that
they’re going to do and with whom when it comes to physical contact and
romantic activities.<br />
<br />
If you're not going to further or continue sexual or romantic affection, it
would be best to <b>let them down easy</b>, and you probably <i>want</i> to let them down
easy, unless they’ve been coercive in their approach. Who likes to be rejected?
<br />
<br />
Some things you might want to say, depending on the situation:</span></span><br />
<ul>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You’re flattered</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You love them </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You’re not upset with them</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You just can’t go there because your feelings for them, while loving and
pleasant, are entirely non-romantic and/or non-sexual</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You’re not open to a romantic or sexual relationship anyone right now (or
anymore)</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You’re committed to someone else/others and do not want to jeopardize that</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">You just can’t take the possible risks</span></span><br /><span style="font-family: inherit;"></span></li>
</ul>
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;">
Even if you already reacted in a way that wasn’t exactly letting them down
easy, you can go back to them and tell them that you’re flattered, you’re sorry
you reacted that way, but you were caught off guard, then tell them one or more of
the statements above.<br />
<br />
If you take the route of not “going there,” be sure to be mindful of what you’re
doing around them because you do not want to tease them or give them false
hope. It is tough enough for them to deal with the rejection; don’t add to the
difficulty.<br /><br />Also, they may be consanguinamorous as their orientation, and even if they aren't they might pursue a consanguinamorous relationship with someone else. <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/how-to-be-ally-to-consanguinamorous.html" target="_blank">Here's how to be an ally</a>.<br />
<br />If you'd like to contact me to discuss these matters further, you can write me at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com<br /><br />
(Disclaimer: This entry assumes you live, or would move to, someplace where
affection would not be <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/11/frequently-asked-question-why-is-incest.html" target="_blank">a criminal matter</a>.)</span></span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"><br /><a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/04/how-to-pull-off-living-with-your.html" target="_blank">How To Pull Off Living With Your Consanguineous Lover</a></span></span><br />
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<![endif]-->Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-27570247812863500672024-02-10T15:08:00.000-08:002024-02-10T15:08:39.055-08:00Valentine’s Day<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
<a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Rwjjaem_8tI/Tozezf5l1MI/AAAAAAAAAGY/yiAYOrCqa3syIpAIOyQQRN8Nshfu5AeAQCPcBGAYYCw/s1600/heart.svg.med.png" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="282" data-original-width="300" height="188" src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Rwjjaem_8tI/Tozezf5l1MI/AAAAAAAAAGY/yiAYOrCqa3syIpAIOyQQRN8Nshfu5AeAQCPcBGAYYCw/s200/heart.svg.med.png" width="200" /></a></div><p>
Valentine's Day is almost here again. Many people will be getting married. Married people will be celebrating their anniversaries, or simply having a night out or a special night in, as will other people hoping to get married someday, or maybe just enjoying being together in public.<br />
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If you are in such a situation, good for you and enjoy it.<br />
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Whether you are or not, take a moment to think about all of the<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank"> people who can’t marry the person or person(s) they love</a>, or can’t so much as hold hands in public without being accosted. Think about the people, <b><i>consenting adults</i></b>, who have to completely hide their relationships because they could be <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/11/frequently-asked-question-why-is-incest.html" target="_blank">sent to prison</a> for simply having sex in private. Think about the people who have to hide <i>who they are</i> because, where they live, they could be killed for being who they are. Think about the people who can’t accept gifts from their their lover(s) at work, or even a loving comment in social media, because it would out them and get them fired.<br />
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This is what goes on because some people are being denied their rights to share sex, love, kink, residence, and marriage. The US has had <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2015/07/detailing-good-news-from-supreme-court.html" target="_blank">the limited monogamous same-gender freedom to marry nationwide</a>, which was a great step forward, for years now, and it hasn't hurt anything. Let’s keep evolving!</p><p>In most of the world, a man <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/polyamory-and-polygamy.html" target="_blank">can’t marry both of the women he loves</a>, despite both women being in favor of such a marriage.</p><p>The people <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">in most of these interviews</a> can't have legally recognized marriages anywhere in the world, with perhaps one or two exceptions, and we need <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">full marriage equality</a> before people like <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/happy-triad.html">Linda, Melissa, and Matthew</a> can tie the knot.<br />
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So enjoy Valentine's Day if you are able, but think for a moment about the people who will only be able to fully enjoy theirs when we have <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/why-support-marriage-equality.html" target="_blank">full marriage equality</a> so that an adult, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, or religion, is free to share love, sex, kink, residence, and marriage with any and all consenting adults without prosecution, persecution, or discrimination. <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/how-you-can-help.html" target="_blank">Help make it happen sooner rather than later.</a><br />
<br />Do you have special plans? Or, if you're reading this after Valentine's Day, do you have anything special to report? If so, comment below. Remember, you can comment anonymously. Or, if you prefer, contact Keith by emailing fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com or on the Wire messaging app at fullmarriageequality.</p>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-1575498670055592992024-02-09T12:05:00.000-08:002024-02-15T16:01:22.256-08:00Approaching Mom<div style="text-align: left;"><div>I’m continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors. Most of my appeals have been granted, restoring those specific answers.</div><div><div><br /></div><div>If you don’t follow me on Quora already, please do so and upvote my answers, if you’re so inclined. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div></div><div><a href="https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-steps-to-seduce-a-mom/answer/Keith-Pullman" target="_blank">https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-steps-to-seduce-a-mom/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-coax-a-mom-to-have-sex?no_redirect=1" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">What is the best way to coax a mom to have sex?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk"><span class="q-text qu-color--gray" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I have interviewed hundreds of people about their families. </span></span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-coax-a-mom-to-have-sex/answer/Keith-Pullman?no_redirect=1" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">1y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">I’m assuming this question is about YOUR mom.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">The best way is to be respectful and attentive to her needs and desires. That excludes spying on her when she expects privacy, taking her things without her permission, sticking your genitals in her face uninvited.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Each situation is different. We don’t know her. You do. You know your history with her, and your personalities.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">How is her stress level these days? If she’s stressed out, or tired out, she’s not going to be feeling very sexual, most likely. So make her life easier. Take care of chores and errands she needs done.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Seducing her is going to be much the same as seducing another woman her age. The big differences are that you already know and love each other, which is an advantage, and that she may have internalized societal prejudices against doing this, which would be a disadvantage. </span><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto; font-weight: bold;">Please note that seducing someone isn’t about making them do something they don’t want to do. That’s a big no-no. It’s about letting them feel your interest, and inspiring in them the excitement of getting sexual, and maybe romantic.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">As with anyone else, all along the process, you need to pay close attention to what she says, how she says it, her body language, etc. If she doesn't want to do something, you need to back off and respect that.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">If you do these things in the right way, the worst that happens is she thinks she has done something wrong to cause these feelings in you, and you can assure her she hasn’t done anything wrong. Or she might think you need therapy. But that’s the worst case scenario.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">On the other hand, she might already very much want something, but has been waiting for you to make a move (for various reasons, including you being the child, you being the male if you are, or others). Or, she might not realize she wants it until she’s given herself permission to think about it. Either way, she might hold back and want you to make a move. Or, somewhere along the process, she might make a move because she’s received enough signals or hints from you.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">You're probably going to need a combination of both talk and action.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">On the talk front, get her to talk with you about sex and relationships. The more she talks with you about sex, the better! Encourage her to talk as much as you can. Listen closely to what she says and how she says it. If you can get her to talk about what turns her on, great, especially if it includes people of your age and gender. Likewise, you can indicate that you are attracted to some people of her age, gender, body and personality type, etc. (you might even want to describe her in way she’d recognize).</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">As you have these conversations, you can bring up the topic of sexual limits and taboos, including "forbidden" relationships. For example, cousins. You might even ask her if she has ever been attracted to someone or fantasized about someone who she “wasn’t supposed” to think about that way. You can then bring up sexual relationships between mothers and sons. If her reaction isn't negative, that's a great sign. If you need a "reason" to bring up such topics, you can say the topic came up in a dream you had, or an article, story, television show, or movie you saw, or even that someone you know brought it up.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Throughout all of this, you haven't actually said that YOU want to have sex with HER. She might have figured it out, but since it hasn't been said, she can still cool things down if she’s not interested, with minimal embarrassment, and you can still deny, if she has a negative reaction, that you wanted to have sex with her.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">As far as action, you want to increase the emotional and physical affection between the two of you.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Give her compliments. Flirt with her. Joke with her. Use terms of endearment, as appropriate ("Hey, Love...", "Honey", “Beautiful,” “My Dear”). Compliments should indicate that you recognize what she has to offer as a romantic or sexual partner, but not be so crude as to turn her off. Flirting can include smiles, winks, lingering looks (especially up and down her body), gentle and light touches on her arm, etc.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Give her more, longer, and tighter hugs, from both the front and behind. You might want to let your hands move as far as she’ll allow. Give her more, longer, and more suggestive kisses. Look for excuses to be close to her and touch her, even if just in passing, like a touch on the back, or the back of the neck, or the behind, depending. Offer backscratches, neck rubs, shoulder rubs, leg rubs, massages, or anything else that will get your hands on her.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">You need to get her alone, relaxed, and feeling affectionate playful, and sexy. So, date her. Dates can be at home. It is setting up what will be an enjoyable time for her so that the two of you can spend quality time together, alone. Making or buying her favorite dinner, and/or having finger foods she likes that you can feed each other, and some wine (as long as neither of you is a problem drinker) can be great, along with cuddling up for a movie, or playing a game of cards (strip poker - if she doesn't like that idea you can claim it was a joke).</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Speaking of stripping, be aware of what you are (and aren't) wearing around her, with showing off your best features and/or allowing easy access in mind. You might even consider going "naturist" or nudist at home. But in general, women don’t react the same way to nudity as men do to female nudity. And never think that just “whipping it out” or sending her a picture of it will get you anywhere positive. Remember, you need to treat her with respect. Going nude, even just starting in your room with the door open, and no longer hiding your masturbation is about creating an atmosphere of freedom. It might inspire her to do likewise.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Be prepared to appeal to her heart, libido, and intellect. Be prepared to answer whatever concerns to she might have, including assuring her you can keep private things private, that there's nothing wrong with sharing affection if you both want it, and that many other people are doing it. Again, if she resists or indicates she’s not willing, back off! There’s a chance she just needs to think about it for a bit longer, or there’s a chance it won’t go any further, and you have to respect that. Going slowly might help. For example, telling her “Let’s just try kissing, and if you don’t like that, we can stop.”</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">After the first time together, residue of sex-negative programming might bother her. Reassure her with anything from a smile, to hand-holding, to an embrace, to talking (including thanking her and telling her how much you enjoyed what you’ve just experienced together), to a shower together, to another round of lovemaking. You want to let her know you wanted this and enjoyed it and that there’s nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Keep in mind that, depending on her age, it would be a good idea to have lube available, and her body might not be able to lubricate enough on its own.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">This is generalized. Adjust and adapt as best for you and your relationship with her and life situation.</span></span></span></p></span></span></div></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers. Someone asked a question. I gave a sincere and careful answer.</span></div></div></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">If you want to contact me privately, I can be reached on the Wire messaging service at fullmarriageequality or via email at fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-75324054288893955372024-02-08T11:26:00.000-08:002024-02-08T11:26:01.000-08:00Genetic Sexual Attraction, Incest, and Consanguinamory<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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To act, or not to act, that is the question.<br />
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As always, I am talking about consensual sex, not <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/against-abuse.html" target="_blank">molestation, assault, or rape.</a><br />
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Close relatives may experience mutual attraction as a result of <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/genetic-sexual-attraction.html" target="_blank">Genetic Sexual Attraction</a> (GSA), Genetic Attraction, Familial Sexual Attraction, or some other experience or phenomenon. I’m addressing these together because they all involve close relatives. These things can lead to incest (consanguineous sex, or consanguinamory) in the form of <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2013/02/ten-myths-about-sibling-consanguinamory.html" target="_blank">sibling sex</a>, parent-adult child sex, cousin sex, etc. It may also lead to marriage or spousal relationships. While all sexual activity related to these can be called consanguineous, reuniuon GSA-initiated consanguinamory is a special subset and it should be noted that opinions of those who have been in such relationships towards non-reunion consanguinamory range from support to indifference to uneasiness to condemnation.<br />
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Speaking of GSA, there is a split in the GSA community about whether to act or not (or to stop acting). Many people who have experienced GSA, prior to having the experience, had never considered the possibility of being attracted to a close relative and may have thought the idea disgusting, but they found themselves attracted to a close biological relative anyway. Those in the GSA community against acting or continuing to act have various motivations; a bad personal experience acting on GSA, a priority of obedience to laws (even if unjust), their personal sexual mores, and perhaps for some, intense emotion about something they never had or can no longer have. They may very well think they are sparing others pain by urging them not to act. But others say the pain for them was in delaying the reality that they had been reunited with someone who was now their true love.<br />
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I deal with common arguments against the rights to share love, sex, residence, and marriage <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/discredited-invalid-arguments.html">on this page</a>. But just because one should have the right to share these things with a relative doesn’t mean they <i>should</i> share these things in any given case. That is the point of why I am writing this.<br />
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<b>ALL romantic or sexual relationships are emotionally risky.</b> Most do not work out, or most of us would still be in our first one. As with any relationship, <u><b>you should be the one making that decision for you, not anybody else.</b></u> Don't let others decide for you. There are trade-offs and emotional risks in any relationship. With a possible consanguinamorous relationship, there are generally pros and cons, and with GSA, there is likely to be pain and struggle <i>no matter what course is taken</i>. Ultimately, each situation can have different factors than others, but there are some general considerations I will address.<br />
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If there is <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/why-do-i-feel-this-way.html" target="_blank">mutual attraction</a>, and that is <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/when-someone-you-love-wants-to-love-you.html" target="_blank">a big if</a>, there are many things that should be considered before becoming more physically intimate. Notice that to one extent or another, these apply to relationships with nonrelatives as well.<br />
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<u><b>First, the cautionary considerations…</b></u><br />
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<b>1. Is this person right for you, right now? </b>In this stage of your life, are you looking for a spouse? A partner? A roommate? A date? A dance partner? A friend-with-benefits? Is this person a good choice for that? (With a GSA situation, you may not know until you spend more time with them; some other times, you already know they aren’t. If you have been with this close relative all of your life, you should have a fairly good idea either way, which is one of the advantages of consanguinamory.) We’ve all known people, perhaps ourselves, who have been attracted to someone who is all wrong for us, or at least we were wrong for each other in that stage of our lives. Nobody should voluntarily subject themselves to a toxic person, relative or not, and some people aren't toxic, but they just aren't right for you because of personality differences, lifestyle differences, and wanting different things out of life. With parent-adult child GSA, there is sometimes (not always) a good reason why the child was kept away from the adult, or given away by the adult; sometimes in those cases, things have gotten better in the decades since. Whether or not a person is right for you may have to do whether you are just looking for recreation, a release, to express your love, or satisfy a curiosity.<br />
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<b>2. Is it cheating? </b>I am against cheating. I also generally support keeping a family together. This means that if one has existing vows to another that preclude entering into this new (or new level of) relationship, especially if there are children being raised in that home, I would urge against it. In a perfect world, everyone would talk it over and the addition would be accommodated, but I know this would be extremely unlikely in a relationship where closed monogamy is expected, or even in open or polyamorous relationships where someone doesn’t want to give up status as the primary.<br />
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Genetic Sexual Attraction presents a special situation as overwhelmingly powerful feelings flood a person, often suddenly and without warning. There still isn’t much awareness about GSA. Thus, you can have someone who would not otherwise violate their vows to another/others do that very thing. For example, there can be a woman happily married to a man in monogamous, closed marriage, and she would never have an affair with a coworker or neighbor or the brother with whom she was raised. But one day she finds out she has a slightly older half brother or one her age, and upon meeting, they have a powerful attraction and start to spend a lot of time together and engage in constant communication. Just their mere emotional bonding may be threatening to her husband; all the more so if the relationship becomes sexual. There is the possibility that if the husband remains, his wife may return to monogamy with him. But there is also the possibility that she will leave him for her half brother.<br />
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<b>3. Are you willing to deal with the possible fallout?</b> Emotional relationships will always have fallout, but with consanguinamory <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2013/07/how-consanguineous-lovers-can-avoid.html" target="_blank">there can be legal, professional, familial, and social fallout</a>. This blog supports the right of consenting adults to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with any consenting adults, but the present reality is that consanguinamory is <a href="http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/osiris_loves_isis/map.jpg?t=1264021973">illegal in many places</a>, and even if not illegal, not legally protected. It is also looked down upon by some who take it upon themselves to be concerned with the love lives of others. Thus, coming out or being outed may result in prosecution, discrimination, bullying, and jealousy on the part of others. These factors can be minimized through moving to <a href="http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/osiris_loves_isis/map.jpg?t=1264021973">a location where consanguineous sex is not illegal or not prosecuted</a>, and/or where your biological connection is not known. Discretion can be absolutely essential. There are too many power-hungry people in legislatures and law enforcement (and it only takes a few) who want to interfere in the love and sex lives of others, and much hateful prejudice among others who will discriminate against and harass your family if they find out something like this.<br />
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<b>4. Is there a possibility of a sexually transmitted infection?</b><br />
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<b>5. If applicable, has fertility, the <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/06/consanguinamory-and-reproduction.html" target="_blank">possibility of pregnancy</a>, and contraception been discussed</b>?<br />
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<u><b>Now, for some encouragement…</b></u><br />
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<b>6. There ARE people in lasting, happy, <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/case-studies.html" target="_blank">consanguinamorous relationships</a>, some with the support of <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/family-and-friends.html" target="_blank">family and friends</a>; there are people who had positive experiences with youthful experimentation or play.</b><br />
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<b>7. Consanguineous sex, consanguinamory, and consanguineous marriages are not new things, <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/12/frequently-asked-question-how-common-is.html" target="_blank">nor are they rare</a>.</b> The fact is, these things have been going on for literally all of human history in various cultures and every level of society. From the rich to the poor, royalty to commoners, educated to ignorant, urban to rural, young to elderly, close family members have done everything from engaging in playful experimentation to forming lasting spousal relationships. Consanguineous sex is normal, natural, common, and can be enjoyable and beneficial. <br />
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<b>8. Nothing ventured, nothing gained</b>. If you’re right for each other, don’t deny yourselves, deny each other, or waste the lives of others by entangling them in an effort to avoid your true love. As a wise person who has been there puts it, “I ran from the one person who would have supported and loved me for who I am, not who he wanted me to be, or for what I could do for him and my children and I have paid the price for two decades.” Fortunately, there is a happy ending in that case.<br />
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<b>9. It can be a wonderful experience or even a deep and abiding love.</b> If the situation is just a matter of curiosity and exploration, who better to learn with? But if it is more than that, be assured that consanguineous lovers often report that consanguinamory is deep and powerful; that other relationships pale in comparison. It is a special bond that brings happiness, a caring partner, and security. Who cares for you more?<br />
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<b>10. In instances of GSA, it can be positive compensation for something that was lost and can never be regained.</b><br />
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<u><b>If there is love; mutual attraction, trust, and respect; compatibility in availability, goals, personalities, personal styles and habits (notice that these may take some time together to determine); and the above considerations have been made, don’t let anyone stop you.</b></u><br />
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<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/cautious-consanguinamory.html" target="_blank">You may want to go slowly</a>.<br />
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<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html" target="_blank">Here is how to make it happen</a>. <br />
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<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/04/how-to-pull-off-living-with-your.html" target="_blank">How to pull off living together</a>.<br />
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Refer your family and friends to <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/p/family-and-friends.html">THIS page</a> and anyone who wants to be an ally <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/05/how-to-be-ally-to-consanguinamorous.html" target="_blank">should read this</a>.<br />
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You may want to check out:<br />
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<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/07/suppression-brings-ongoing-pain.html">Suppression Brings Ongoing Pain</a><br />
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<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/05/avoid-hurtful-people.html">Avoid Hurtful People</a><br />
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<a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2010/12/hate-adds-pain-to-genentic-sexual.html">Hate Adds Pain to Genetic Sexual Attraction</a><br />
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You can also contact me through fullmarriageequality at protonmail dot com.<br />
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Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-80619028768332001692024-02-06T06:16:00.000-08:002024-02-06T06:16:00.136-08:00Quora Answer About Breaking the Ice<div style="text-align: left;">I’m continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors. While most of my appeals have been granted, restoring my answers, the silly censors have continued to report my answers out of desperate bigotry. So, this could turn out to be a looooong series. Enjoy!</div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><br /></div><div>If you don’t follow me on Quora already, please do so and upvote my answers, if you’re so inclined. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/Me-and-my-mom-both-have-sexual-feelings-for-each-other-but-are-afraid-of-taking-this-ahead-How-do-I-deal-with-this/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/Me-and-my-mom-both-have-sexual-feelings-for-each-other-but-are-afraid-of-taking-this-ahead-How-do-I-deal-with-this/answer/Keith-Pullman</a></span></span><br /></span></p><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Me-and-my-mom-both-have-sexual-feelings-for-each-other-but-are-afraid-of-taking-this-ahead-How-do-I-deal-with-this" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: repeat;">Me and my mom both have sexual feelings for each other but are afraid of taking this ahead. How do I deal with this?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk"><span class="q-text qu-color--gray" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I have interviewed hundreds of people about their families. </span></span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Me-and-my-mom-both-have-sexual-feelings-for-each-other-but-are-afraid-of-taking-this-ahead-How-do-I-deal-with-this/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">4y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;"></span></p><div class="q-text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">Assuming you’re of age to consent, what you do is you make each other and yourselves as comfortable as possible, in a time and place you’re alone and not rushed, and you take things slowly. Hug, cuddle, kiss. Rub each other’s shoulders and legs.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">You two can slowly intensify the kisses and move your touches to places you haven’t touched each other before. If either one of you wants to stop, stop. If you both want to go more slowly or more quickly, you can. You needn’t go any further than you both want.</span></p></span></span></div><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><br /></p></div><div><br /></div><div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers.</span></div></div></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">More</div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-7289079004938459892024-02-05T14:14:00.000-08:002024-02-05T14:14:42.625-08:00Connecting Privately<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPGzxbA_xfjtqUqBiw6X81EKgrsTznXO6lGu3qYfqt38oAmYThPq6fkgdavQlMTQgKh6H_JXFnSXYOMoBePeZ2Mxd20WkOewyX6lZWkdiKhv6JY7Pjl77s1ywryptEJrhRD-icVGAUnLsmy_CO8TmFLvw_KSMC-U1FXa_chSY2qbXzOrIQ2vxrxNupaxE/s100/cupid.jpg" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="86" data-original-width="100" height="86" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPGzxbA_xfjtqUqBiw6X81EKgrsTznXO6lGu3qYfqt38oAmYThPq6fkgdavQlMTQgKh6H_JXFnSXYOMoBePeZ2Mxd20WkOewyX6lZWkdiKhv6JY7Pjl77s1ywryptEJrhRD-icVGAUnLsmy_CO8TmFLvw_KSMC-U1FXa_chSY2qbXzOrIQ2vxrxNupaxE/s1600/cupid.jpg" width="100" /></a></div>It’s always good to hear from you if you’re supportive, involved, experienced, curious, or have something to share or questions to ask when it comes to the topics of this blog.<br /><div><br /></div><div>You can comment on the various entries of this blog. And it’s also great if you reach out privately. If you want a supportive person to talk with, please reach out.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>You can reach me, Keith via email at:</div><div><br /></div><div>fullmarriageequality at proton mail dot com</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>You can reach David, a friend of this blog, via email at:</div><div><br /></div>consangresearch at proton dot me<br /><div><br /></div><div>Check out <a href="https://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2023/11/an-additional-perspective-on-mothers.html" target="_blank">my interview with David here.</a></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-30228776266717188472024-02-04T07:30:00.000-08:002024-02-04T07:30:00.179-08:00What Sign Might a Mother Give?<div style="text-align: left;">I'm continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors. While most of my appeals have been granted, restoring my answers, the silly censors have continued to report my answers out of desperate bigotry. So, this could turn out to be a looooong series. Enjoy!</div><div><br /></div><div>If you don’t follow me on Quora already, please do so and upvote my answers, if you’re so inclined. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>*****</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat; font-size: 15px;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/What-sign-will-a-mom-give-if-she-is-sexually-attracted-to-her-son-alone/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/What-sign-will-a-mom-give-if-she-is-sexually-attracted-to-her-son-alone/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /></span></span></p><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/What-sign-will-a-mom-give-if-she-is-sexually-attracted-to-her-son-alone" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: repeat;">What sign will a mom give if she is sexually attracted to her son alone?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk"><span class="q-text qu-color--gray" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I network with, interview, & befriend adults with consensual incest experience.</span></span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/What-sign-will-a-mom-give-if-she-is-sexually-attracted-to-her-son-alone/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">3y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">What sign will a mom give to her son if she is sexually attracted to him?</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">She might not give any sign at all, because she is too afraid.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">Or she might give very subtle signs, or might be more obvious.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">There are almost countless signs she might give. The way she talks to him might be as a potential partner or more flirtatious. The ways she looks at him, smiles at him, touches him, hugs him, kisses him might indicate her attraction. She might sleep with a shirt he has worn but hasn’t been washed yet. Her body language might indicate her attraction. She might look for reasons to wear less/show more skin around him.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">What signs may she give to others that she is only attracted to her son? Most will hide this, because there is still so much prejudice against this.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">There are more mothers attracted to their sons than will admit it. And more act on such attractions than most people think.</span></p></span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers.</span></div></div><div><br /></div></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-41225754416791569172024-02-01T17:09:00.000-08:002024-02-01T17:09:57.222-08:00What Genealogists Know<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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With each previous generation you trace back, the <i>maximum possible</i> number of your genetic ancestors doubles. You can have 2 parents, up to 4 grandparents, up to 8 great-grandparents, up to 16 great-great-grandparents, etc.<br />
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On average, there are about four generations per century. For people born in the year 2000, their 8 great-great-grandparents were probably born around 1900. Sometime around 1800 their great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents were born (there may be up to 128 of them). <b>About 29 generations back, or roughly around the time of 1250-1300, the total number of your possible ancestors for that generation equals or exceeds the total population of the planet, which was about 500 million people.</b><br />
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What gives? Well, first of all, if <i><b>all</b></i> 500 million of those people were <i>your</i> ancestors, they would also be the ancestors of all of the rest of us, too.<br />
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Secondly, you probably <i>don’t</i> have <i>every </i>person alive back then as your ancestor. There wasn’t a lot of interracial or intercultural parenting going on back then. People were more isolated, more people lived in rural countrysides rather than dense urban areas, and people were not nearly as geographically or socially mobile as they are today. It was very common for a person to be born in and to die in the the same village or town, having lived all of her or his life there.<br />
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This means that for many, many, many, many generations, there was a lot of what most people would call today “inbreeding.” If your spouse wasn’t your first cousin, your spouse was likely a <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2012/12/clearing-up-consanguinity.html" target="_blank">second or third cousin, or a second cousin-once removed</a>, or even your double-cousin, etc. <a href="http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2011/10/artificial-limbs-in-official-family.html" target="_blank">And as I’ve noted before</a>, even if they weren’t marrying them, people were having children with siblings, aunts or uncles, etc. (Even if not having children together, what do you think went on, given that pubescent teens, like most children, were usually sharing a bedroom?) Not only did these things not destroy humanity, but in Europe, the Renaissance was birthed in these conditions.<br />
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Coming back to around 1800, very few people are likely to have 128 great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents, just like very few of those people in 1800 had 128 of them in 1600. Because chances are, some of your recent ancestors were cousins, if not closer. If you marry your first cousin, you have no more than six genetic grandparents between you, instead of eight. If your parents are first cousins, you have six great-grandparents instead of eight.<br />
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If “inbreeding” was as detrimental as common misconception says, none of us would be here.<br />
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Enjoy!</div><div><br /></div><div>If you don’t follow me on Quora already, please do so and upvote my answers, if you’re so inclined. </div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>*****</div><div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-mb--tiny spacing_log_originally_answered_banner qu-color--gray_light qu-passColorToLinks" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #939598; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; margin-bottom: 4px;"><br /></div><a href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-unusual-for-me-to-be-attracted-to-my-mother/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/Is-it-unusual-for-me-to-be-attracted-to-my-mother/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /><br /><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; 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display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Is it unusual for me to be attracted to my mother?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); 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border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk">Civil Rights Blogger & Consanguinamory Consultant (2010–present)</span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-unusual-for-me-to-be-attracted-to-my-mother/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">7y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">It is normal in that is happens to many young men. It may not be “normal” as in happening to most men your age. However, it is common enough that you certainly know other young men who have the same feelings for their mother, whether you know about that or not. It isn't exactly the kind of thing a lot of people tell other people they know.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">There is nothing wrong with having these thoughts and feelings as long as they don't interfere with your reasonable obligations (such as your education or employment).</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">I actually know mothers and adult sons who've acted on such feelings, and some of them have the most beautiful relationships. It really doesn't matter if someone else is disgusted, and no, it isn't illegal in all places.</span></p></span></span></div></div><div><br /></div><div>*****</div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers.</span></div></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-53437100482014736782024-01-27T12:59:00.000-08:002024-01-27T12:59:49.490-08:00Why Does Someone Feel That Way?<div><div>I'm continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors.</div><div><br />*****</div></div><div><br /></div><div><a href="https://www.quora.com/I-m-16-why-do-I-have-sexual-feelings-for-my-dad/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/I-m-16-why-do-I-have-sexual-feelings-for-my-dad/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/I-m-16-why-do-I-have-sexual-feelings-for-my-dad?no_redirect=1" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background: repeat;">I’m 16, why do I have sexual feelings for my dad?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms ease 0s;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk"><span class="q-text qu-color--gray" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I network with, interview, & befriend adults with consensual incest experience.</span></span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/I-m-16-why-do-I-have-sexual-feelings-for-my-dad/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">3y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-mb--tiny spacing_log_originally_answered_banner qu-color--gray_light qu-passColorToLinks" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #939598; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; margin-bottom: 4px;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk">Originally Answered: I’m 16,why do I have sexual feelings for my dad?</span></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">Most 16-year-olds are very hormonal. For some, this means they’ll have sexual feelings for a lot of people in their lives. What most people don’t admit is that this can include close relatives, including a parent.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">There is also a small percentage of the population that has a sexual orientation that is somewhat consanguinamorous, meaning they are attracted to one or more close relatives in large part </span><span style="background: repeat; font-style: italic;">because</span><span style="background: repeat;"> they are close relatives.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">If your father has raised you, and he’s been a great father, that can also factor into your attraction.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">If your father didn’t raise you, but he’s back in your life now, well, a lot of people feel a very strong attraction to a close genetic relative if that relative didn’t raise them, but they are in each other’s lives now.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">Finally, if your father is “objectively” attractive, that might be most or part of the reason why.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">Sexual attractions are very diverse.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background: repeat;">You are certainly not alone. You probably know other people who’ve been attracted to their own father, whether it was fleeting or they have a strong lasting attraction, or something somewhere between.</span></p></span></span></div></div><div><br /></div><div><div>*****<br /><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers.</span></div></div></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-63304624854881471542024-01-25T13:48:00.000-08:002024-01-25T13:48:21.097-08:00Mothers, Sons, and the Law<div style="text-align: left;"><div>I'm continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors.</div><div><br />*****</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-illegal-for-a-mother-to-have-sex-with-her-own-son/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/Is-it-illegal-for-a-mother-to-have-sex-with-her-own-son/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-illegal-for-a-mother-to-have-sex-with-her-own-son" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-feature-settings: inherit; font-kerning: inherit; font-optical-sizing: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-alternates: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-position: inherit; font-variation-settings: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: currentcolor; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Is it illegal for a mother to have sex with her own son?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk"><span class="q-text qu-color--gray" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I network with, interview, & befriend adults with consensual incest experience.</span></span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Is-it-illegal-for-a-mother-to-have-sex-with-her-own-son/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration: none;" target="_top">2y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">It’s still illegal for a woman who have sex with her adult son in 48 states in the US and many countries.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">It isn’t illegal in the US states of Rhode Island & New Jersey, as well as various modern countries, including France and Spain.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;">Regardless of criminalization, there are mothers and sons having sex in just about every neighborhood on the planet, regardless of class or ethnicity. And there always have been. Sometimes the sex is a very casual “family-with-benefits” agreement, sometimes it is part of a spousal relationship lasting decades, and sometimes it is somewhere along the wide spectrum between.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-attachment: scroll; background-clip: border-box; background-image: none; background-origin: padding-box; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat; background-size: auto;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">Very few are ever caught & prosecuted where it is still illegal, but such lovers need to be carefulf in order to protect themselves and each other.</span></span></span></p></span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><br /></div><div>*****<br /><br /></div><div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers.</span></div></div></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3152584185487706890.post-10520055447350605612024-01-23T17:15:00.000-08:002024-01-23T21:35:42.917-08:00Are These Fantasies Normal?<div style="text-align: left;">I'm continuing a series here of answers I posted to Quora that got attacked by censors.</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />*****<br /><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-image: none; background: none;"><a href="https://www.quora.com/Ive-been-fantasizing-about-my-sister-is-this-normal-Should-I-do-something-to-stop-this/answer/Keith-Pullman">https://www.quora.com/Ive-been-fantasizing-about-my-sister-is-this-normal-Should-I-do-something-to-stop-this/answer/Keith-Pullman</a><br /></span></p><div class="q-box qu-mb--medium qu-mt--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 16px; margin-top: 8px;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-right: 38px;"><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--xlarge qu-fontWeight--bold qu-color--gray_dark_dim qu-passColorToLinks qu-lineHeight--regular qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(21px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold; line-height: 1.4; word-break: break-word;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 TitleText___StyledCssInlineComponent-sc-1hpb63h-0 hiLnej"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--block qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Ive-been-fantasizing-about-my-sister-is-this-normal-Should-I-do-something-to-stop-this" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; display: block; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_top"><div class="q-click-wrapper qu-display--block qu-tapHighlight--white qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline ClickWrapper___StyledClickWrapperBox-zoqi4f-0 iyYUZT" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); box-sizing: border-box; color: inherit; cursor: pointer; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font: inherit; line-height: inherit; outline: none; padding: 0px; text-align: inherit;" tabindex="0"><div class="q-flex qu-flexDirection--row" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-direction: row;"><div class="q-inline qu-flexWrap--wrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; flex-wrap: wrap; max-width: 100%;"><div class="QuestionTitle___StyledText-exj38m-0 chNUqN puppeteer_test_question_title" style="box-sizing: content-box;"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><span style="background-image: none; background: none;">I've been fantasizing about my sister, is this normal? Should I do something to stop this?</span></span></div></div></div></div></a></span></span></div></div></div></div><div class="q-box qu-mb--small" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin-bottom: 8px; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-box spacing_log_answer_header" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><div class="q-flex qu-alignItems--flex-start" style="align-items: flex-start; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; width: 602px;" width="100%"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-mr--small qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; margin-right: 8px;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-display--inline-flex qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; cursor: pointer; display: inline-flex; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-flex--none" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; flex: 0 0 auto; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; position: relative;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-overflow--hidden qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; overflow: hidden; position: relative;"><div class="q-box qu-bg--white__ignore_dark_mode qu-borderRadius--circle" style="border-radius: 100%; box-sizing: border-box; inset: 1px; position: absolute;"></div><img alt="Profile photo for Keith Pullman" class="q-image qu-display--block qu-size--36 qu-minWidth--36" size="36" src="https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-thumb-6067099-50-7t1q1bac5FGjt1YvJvwUAA6BQ4dmUX9M.jpeg" style="border-style: none; box-sizing: border-box; display: block; height: 36px; max-width: 100%; min-width: 36px; position: relative; width: 36px;" /><div class="q-box qu-borderRadius--circle qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken Photo___StyledBox-sc-1x7c6d3-0 hniIRb" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06) !important; border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; position: absolute; transition: background-color 150ms ease 0s;"></div><div class="q-absolute qu-fullX qu-fullY qu-borderAll qu-borderColor--darken qu-borderRadius--circle BadgeWrapper___StyledAbsolute-kazm88-0 bhmOme" style="border-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06) !important; border-radius: 100%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border: 1px solid rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.06); box-sizing: border-box; inset: 0px; pointer-events: none; position: absolute; z-index: 1;"></div></div></div></div></a></div><div class="q-box qu-flex--auto" style="box-sizing: border-box; flex: 1 1 auto; margin-top: -1px; min-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-bold qu-color--gray_dark qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important; font-weight: bold;"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ puppeteer_test_link qu-color--gray_dark qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/profile/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_blank"><div class="q-inlineFlex qu-alignItems--center qu-wordBreak--break-word" style="align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline-flex; word-break: break-word;">Keith Pullman</div></a></div></span></span></div><div class="q-text qu-dynamicFontSize--small qu-color--gray qu-passColorToLinks" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #636466; font-size: calc(13px * var(--dynamic-font-scale, 1)) !important;"><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 kBzlwk"><span class="q-text qu-color--gray" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I have interviewed hundreds of people about their families. </span></span><span class="CssComponent-sc-1oskqb9-0 AbstractSeparatedItems___StyledCssComponent-sc-46kfvf-0 ytbFj"><span class="q-text qu-whiteSpace--nowrap" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-wrap: nowrap;"><span class="q-box" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin-right: auto; pointer-events: auto;"><a class="q-box Link___StyledBox-t2xg9c-0 dFkjrQ answer_timestamp qu-cursor--pointer qu-hover--textDecoration--underline" href="https://www.quora.com/Ive-been-fantasizing-about-my-sister-is-this-normal-Should-I-do-something-to-stop-this/answer/Keith-Pullman" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6); background-color: transparent; border-radius: inherit; box-sizing: border-box; cursor: pointer; text-decoration-line: none;" target="_top">4y</a></span></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="q-text" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%;"><span class="CssComponent__CssInlineComponent-sc-1oskqb9-1 UserSelectableText___StyledCssInlineComponent-lsmoq4-0"><span class="q-box qu-userSelect--text" style="box-sizing: border-box; user-select: text;"><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-image: none; background: none;">I don’t know how old you are, or how old your sister is, but if you’re a teenager or older, fantasies are common, and if your sister is older than you or no more than a few years younger, fantasizing about her isn’t abnormal.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-image: none; background: none;">Many people you know have fantasized about their own siblings.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #282829; direction: ltr; font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px; margin: 0px 0px 1em; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-image: none; background: none;">Believe it or not, some of them have actually had sex with their sibling. It is common enough that you know someone who has, even if you’re not aware that they have.</span></p><p class="q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; margin: 0px; overflow-wrap: anywhere; padding: 0px; word-break: break-word;"><span style="background-image: none; background: none;"><span face="-apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Oxygen-Sans, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif" style="color: #282829;"><span style="font-size: 15px;">If you’re like most people, you are going to have many fantasies throughout your life. And unless you have a very stunted imagination or are incredibly lucky, many of your fantasies won’t be fulfilled in real life. But at least some of them can be.</span></span></span></p></span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">*****<br /><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">NOTE: These specific answers in this series were "deleted" at Quora after being there for a while and being well-received. They were probably hidden from view because some bigot targeted me, as evidenced by the fact that many were deleted in rapid fire.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: x-small;">I have previously appealed such deletions successfully. However, whether or not my deleted answers are restored, I’ll be adding them to this blog. You’ll see for yourself there’s no reason to delete these answers.</span></div></div>Full Marriage Equalityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03029782688617414753noreply@blogger.com1