Friday, January 8, 2016

Counselor Supports Consanguine Couples

We found this at this URL, but we have been unable to find the original posting to which is refers. That's too bad, as we'd very much like to be in contact with the person who wrote the original text below. If that is you, please get in contact with us. Or, even if you didn't write it, if it is something you could have written given your background and support for consanguineous lovers, then please to get in touch with us.


In support of consanguine couples.

(TL;DR: OP supports incest couples after commiserating with dozens of them.) With human rights scratching towards the forefront of global issues, I'd like to take a moment to voice support for consanguine couples. I was going to do one of those nifty "My Job As" posts that I admire and enjoy, but I'm a small-time lurker who only has a few uploads, so I'm not familiar-enough with the layout to really make a pop-out interesting post. Two years as an untrained volunteer peer counselor for, I have spoken with literally thousands of people, I've counseled marriages, helped people in their careers, contacted law enforcement for abuse victims, and spent hours talking people out of suicide. Among all of those unfortunates, the plight that has struck the deepest chord with me are consanguine (incest) couples. This is a trend that is far more common than what I've personally found discussed in any form of media, and life for these people is very difficult. Receiving much the same hate as LGBT persons and couples (and even hate FROM LGBT persons), their relationships are considered just as *forbidden* for reasons ranging from religious to scientific. (Example: According to the coefficient of inbreeding, full siblings have 50% chance to pass on deleterious alleles, which is very high, but just because negative traits can be passed on, that is no indicator of what KIND of negative genes will pass on.) Much of society uses outrageous examples like three-headed children and the Wrong Turn movie franchise as colloquial examples, but such deformities are VERY extreme and unlikely, even in repeated incest; the haemophilia that lurked in Royal European families is rumored to have been the *result* of inbreeding, but this is impossible to verify, nevertheless, the strength of the rumor that incest tends to produce horrifying diseases has persisted in society. The societal backlash on consanguine couples is often severe, given that the potential for harm is statistically so much higher than other types of relationships, but the harsh reality is that, in spite of how society-at-large may feel about the topic, consanguine coupling happens regularly (I wish I could cite that, but currently - and again, to my personal knowledge - no reputable scientific foundation will fund incest research). To consanguine couples: you are not alone, and your plight is well-understood. Not everyone condemns your feelings. PM me any questions.


You can see at the end there is says "PM me any questions," but there didn't appear to be a way to do that.

So, we'd very much like to be in contact with the person who originally posted this.
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  1. It is very encouraging to see somebody in this particular profession supporting this movement, I see a therapist on a regular basis and there is no doubt in my mind that if she knew the person I was talking about was actually my sister and not just your run of the mill everyday girlfriend my sessions would go from being based on a structure of understanding and support to one of discrimination and possibly "in need of medication".

    So to see a professional have this particular mindset, it's quite a rare find, I say that but I honestly hope that it isn't quite as rare as I might think it to be.

    The funny thing is when I talk about my sister in my therapy sessions (as a girlfriend no relation) my therapist is quite understanding and at times even passes to the relationship off to be "normal", and of "intense feelings with a strong bond", yet this opinion would surely change if you factor in the fact that we are related.

    It's such a shame society can't get their head around simple concepts.

  2. No idea who the author is, sadly, but the hemophilia that Queen Victoria passed on to her descendants did not appear due to inbreeding. That is a popular misconception. It was a de novo mutation. All of her affected descendants were male, as can be expected with this group of disorders, which means it wouldn't have made a difference if their parents had married outside or inside the family.

  3. Damn, I wish we knew who that was...


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