He’s on Cloud Nine

Below is my interview with “cloudnine” about his consanguinamorous relationship. He notes that some of his answers are graphic (though I don't think they are all that graphic), but he felt like he had to tell it “like it really is.”

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FULL MARRIAGE EQUALITY: How would you describe the nature of your romantic relationship with your relative?

CLOUDNINE: We are soul mates; we are like spouses.


FME: Who knows the full nature of your relationship?

Only a handful of people know.


FME: Tell our readers a little about yourself.

I'm a 20 something from the United States. My parents divorced when I was very little. I am in an incestuous relationship with my mother and feel it is not wrong in any way. We get along very well. We are very close and we are consenting adults.


FME: Did you grow up with your mother? What kind of relationship did you have with her before that started, and how is it now?

Now, my mother and make love often. Previously, I grew up with her. We have always had a good relationship, including before we started making love. She went to all my soccer and baseball games and anything else we did together. As a child, she was never mean or abusive to me in any way. We live together, alone.


FME: When did you first discover you had feelings for her?

I first knew I had feelings for her when I was in my late teens and she always made me feel better when I was feeling down or out of sorts. I've never been much of a ladies man. When she told me she found me attractive, it was the tone of her voice and the way she looked at me that made me suspicious that she meant it in a romantic way and not just being friendly. I just dismissed it. Before that, I had never thought about close biological relatives sharing a sexual type of love.


FME: How do you feel about the lovemaking side of your relationship? Is it a natural extension of your general feelings for her?

I really enjoy the lovemaking side to our relationship. We love sleeping together. We already love each other as mother and son, so making love with each other is a bonus. To give all of ourselves to each other and be truly in love is a wonderful feeling. Our sex life is fantastic and it has no limits.


FME: Are you monogamous, in a closed relationship?

Yes, it is a closed relationship. Just the two of us.


FME: Does anyone know the true full nature of your relationship and how did they find out? How have they reacted?

Yes, I have two friends that know about our relationship and they were shocked and surprised when I told them, but they understood and they are trustworthy. They are the only ones that know. Everyone else, including my grandmother and my mom's siblings know us as mother and son.


FME: How did you start making love with each other?

The first time we had sex was spontaneous and grew out of previous physical encounters with each other. Previously, I had been massaging her back and shoulders for her when she came home from work and she loved it. Other times, she would walk up behind me in the kitchen and put her arms around me and kiss me on the back of my neck and it felt good. I started having sexual feelings for her when she started hugging me in a sexual way and kissing me on the lips. Our first intimate naked encounter happened, ironically on Mother's Day a few years back when we took a shower together which we thoroughly enjoyed. My mother walked in naked and joined me in the shower unannounced, although in a way it wasn't totally unexpected given our prior physical encounters. After that, it was straight to bed and we went at it like wild animals in heat. As we f---ed, I didn't think about whether it was wrong. We were caught up in the moment and it was meant to be. It was inevitable.


FME: Do you think family members have some things better or some advantages that unrelated lovers might not, such as more intense feelings and lovemaking? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

The advantages are that you experience a deep, emotional connection with a person you know inside and out. It is love in its truest form and goes way beyond family love. The lovemaking is out of this world and even more intense than normal because the desire and attraction is much stronger. Forbidden fruit is always best. The disadvantage is you lose the typical family connection because you think of them more as a spouse instead of family.


FME: What do you say to people who disapprove of your love?

I would say to them that we have the right to be together in any way we choose. Being intimate with each other is the way we want it. No one will divide us.


FME: Would you get legally married if you could? If it included protection from workplace bullying and discrimination based on your relationship?

Yes, we would get married in a heartbeat. It should be legal and we already consider ourselves husband and wife.


FME: What are your plans for the future?

We are together forever. Neither one of us can imagine being with someone else. We live together as if we are married. The chemistry between us is great and we have an unbreakable bond. It works for us.


FME: Do you personally know or have you met in person other consanguinamorous couples?

No, but exactly 20 years ago, my mother met a mother-son couple and thought nothing of it and wished them the best and thought it was perfectly normal.


FME: What advice do you have to someone who has romantic or sexual feelings for a close biological relative?

It is perfectly OK to have these feelings. It is not wrong. My advice is to try flirting and communicating with them in the style of a consenting adult and see how they react. Hopefully, they will react in a positive way. You have to send the impression that you're interested in something more than just a family relationship. It truly has to be mutual and you have to have a very good family relationship with each other in place first.


FME: Anything else you want to add?

I would like to say that conventional relationships tends to place too much emphasis on how good looking someone is. Our relationship is based on real, true unconditional love. Making love with each other fills a void in our lives that no one else can fill. We are not harming anyone.

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Sounds to me like cloudnine has found a woman who truly cares for him and for whom he truly cares; a deep and passionate love with someone he trusts. There are many places in the world where they would both be prosecuted for making love to each other, but regardless of what others feel about this relationship, this adult son and his mother should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage, instead of being denied the freedom to marry and fearing prosecution and bullying.